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11/05/2019 4:52 pm  

@anita,

Did you become worried after your dream, or have you been having this feeling before then?  

I still strongly sense and believe that T. will be gone in 2020, but I can't see how that will play out.  From what I am getting right now, I'm not seeing a Dem as President in 2020.  I could be totally wrong, and really hope that I am.  But whoever is in, I don't believe it will be T.  And I do believe that the Dems will take both houses (although by a slim margin in the Senate).

 


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11/05/2019 6:01 pm  

@Anita: Sounds like your dream was about you getting information from famous psychics. If you go out there and see what psychics are saying about the 2020 election, it runs the gamut. 


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11/05/2019 6:10 pm  

@jeanne-mayell

Nope. Theresa Caputo is a medium. She has a show you probably have heard of. But she’s said nothing about trump. She strictly does mediumship.

Anita


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11/05/2019 6:25 pm  

@anita

Yes I know her show. She's very famous! I watched her once on t.v. when she first became famous. And while she may not make predictions about politics or the world, a medium is a psychic and is using psychic power when they read the people who sit in the audience. I don't know why you saw her on this topic rather than someone else. 


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11/05/2019 7:04 pm  

@jeanne-mayell

Exactly. I don’t think of her when I wonder what’s going to happen with trump. I sure wish it was all over, though!

 

Anita


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11/05/2019 9:24 pm  

@anita

This is just a guess:  Caputo is a medium, so perhaps when she became upset/irritated/testy and basically said Trump would win, she was actually channeling the upset/irritated/testy opinion of someone who is close to Trump but is now on the other side.  Like maybe his father.  If that's the case, I don't think that's a very reliable and/or unbiased opinion.  Again, just a guess.  (This could explain why, in your dream, it was a medium and not a psychic.)  And maybe the irritation over you supposedly asking her to "testify twice" is alluding to not too distant legal procedures for Trump requiring him to testify (finally) and that he won't be able to get out of.  The medium (or whomever she was channeling) wasn't irritated with you very personally, but rather you as what you represent, meaning a Democrat.  

On a different note, but kinda related, I saw on CNN a bit of Trump's rally last night in which he boasted he may be President for 21 more years:

“It’s the fake news, look at all of them,” he said, pointing at the press pen as the audience loudly booed.

“What they don’t know is that when we hang it up, in five years...or nine years, or 13 years...or maybe 17 years, or maybe – if I still have the strength - 21 years...” Then he trailed off, before beginning another rant about something else.

Too many in Trump's base truly believe such a boast.  Makes sense his father, or whomever the medium in your dream was channeling (if, in fact, my guess is right), is also blindly believing in Trump's invincibility.


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11/05/2019 11:46 pm  

@cdeanne

That’s interesting.

i have been far more at ease because of the truth finally starting to come out. I did read a journalist on twitter writing how trump could say there is an emergency before the 2020 election and be able to call it off. That has frightened me a lot. 
I would hope that if Frederick was involved from the other side, he’d be trying to make amends by doing some good things.

 

thanks for your thoughts.

Anita


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11/05/2019 11:52 pm  

@deetoo

Oh, I hope you are wrong! After 2016, it’s tough to believe anything. But someone with the house and senate needs to right all these wrongs!

i was petrified the summer before the election. I knew it would be very bad and the road to a dictatorship. I’ve been much calmer, but maybe I won’t truly relax until he is in prison and the Dems have the power.

 

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11/06/2019 2:38 am  

@anita

Hi, I don't know Theresa Caputo personally. I have seen her show twice, and not on purpose (a patient would watch her show that I was caring for during some awful marathon). I got a horrible vibe from her. I am sorry but I view her as an emotional vampire, manipulating and exploiting people for her show. There are people who are con artists, who may or may not have some ability and also have an agenda. I avoid psychic fairs for that reason. My mother warned me about this (she was an astrologer) and I think installed a pretty good BS detector.

At any rate, because of my feelings about this, I interpret your dream differently. My interpretation of her objection to you is that you were demanding accountability/precision from someone who likes to mine emotional pain in order to cloud judgement and discernment. She is unable to do that with a mundane question, a situation she resented because that would pin her down irt her accuracy and could affect her reputation. Your dream may also be a caution to you of false prophets or a reflection of your own confidence/fears in your development as a seer.

Also, consider that in your dream, and in real life.. her judgement may be clouded by her desired outcome- a pitfall I see even among skilled interpreters of astrology and tarot on message boards and blogs, and one that I think many of us on this board try to examine and eliminate in our own predictions.

It may be true that the timeline for a Trump win can still be viable. After all, our elections have been tampered with and politicians have openly invited interference from foreign players.

If Jeanne wants to remove this post, I am okay with that.

 


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11/06/2019 8:00 am  

@anita, after the horrific stunner of 2016, I understand feeling like you can't count on anything.  I remember at one early point during election eve 2016, I felt something strange in the air, and thought I was losing my mind.  It suddenly felt like there was a huge crack in the earth and we all fell in.  A trip to Hades, maybe?  And this was long before the election results started to come in.

Although I have certain feelings about the 2020 Presidential election, #1, I could be wrong, and #2, it's not a fait accompli.  Life is fluid, energies shift.  Transformational, energetic shifts are especially powerful right now.  And I still strongly feel that T. will be gone in 2020.

I am extremely hopeful for our future.  I feel it in my bones.  


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11/06/2019 9:53 am  

@rowsella

I would not remove your post. I thank you splashing some cold water on the process which is refreshing for everyone. I don't know or follow many outside psychics, and I don't know if Caputo is the real deal, although she must be talented as well as charismatic to get that far.  She is however an entertainer with big bucks at stake and she has to be very careful not to be wrong in a practice (psychic reading) that is never even close to 100% correct. 

I ask people not to promote outside psychics on this site and not to relay what outside psychics are saying partly because there is no accountability out there. It is the Wild West out there.  I'm sure there are many excellent ones and then there are psychics out there who rely on their charisma to convince people they are spot on all the time.  Because they are charismatic, people will start believing they are perfect. 

No one is spot on all the time. Even the most talented baseball hitters (e.g., Mickey Mantle)  were at best getting hits 30% of the time. Yet we bow down to them for their high hit rate.

 On this site, everyone who participates in Read the Future timeline predictions are tracked. So you can go through and see if people have been wrong or right, although even then, it's still subjective whether someone got a hit. But at least it's there in black and white. 

So when you have a dream that a psychic is saying Trump will win, that could be your fear from hearing that there are psychics out there predicting he will win. Or it could mean something else.

That said, no one knows for sure what will happen.  We read the direction of the collective conscience like we are forecasting the weather.  It is not for certain, like the weather. And we don't pin our hopes on a short-range outcome. Trump resigning by 2021 is a short-range outcome to a much larger picture. 

I pin my hopes on humanity's ability to swing back from the extreme. As someone pointed out recently, we have to swing back from this extreme GOP or else we face extinction.  I believe we have a survival instinct that is kicking in to prevent extinction. And we have light workers who are hard at work doing a great job of turning the ship around. 

 


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11/06/2019 10:49 am  

I've watched T. Caputo's show many times because I find what she does a real gift to those who have sought her out due to losing loved ones. She certainly does make a lot of money doing it but I have read people's posts about their experiences with her gift and find her credible. That being said, I don't know her personally either. 

Anita: the dream discussed would have disturbed me too! Though my higher self is telling me it was not a message from T. Caputo but rather fears about DJT and the election. I have asked so many (credible) psychics I know what they see about 2020 and they all feel it's the most difficult one to answer because they see the energy "in flux". Once the dem candidate has been selected they feel it will be easier to look at it. I too share in your fears.

All that being said, the one thing I can feel is that DJT will be gone or neutered. Which is something many "famous psychics" (no mention of who here) have said quite the opposite. They still stick to him being re-elected. I do not see that nor do the ones I follow here and on YT.

I guess there is always a chance that the GOP could pull a rabbit out of their hat and put up someone very moderate who would appeal to even some dems. I would not put anything past them. They are too good at smearing dems, their favorite past time. They have an evil gift for utilizing the media to destroy a candidate quite well as we have seen with Hillery etc. They are also evilly good at plain old stealing elections - as Gore v. Bush for example.  That is another reason why the energy is probably so awful to read.

I feel we can all change that. We here at Jeanne's site along with our ability to reach out to our friends, etc. can pray and throw much light at the process and help the light win over the dark energy for this election and beyond. I suspect we didn't do that in the last one because many of us were assuming the Orange nightmare would not win. I personally will not be so comfortable next time, and will sit for hours sending as much light as I can since it's obvious the fight is not being played fair by the GOP.


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11/06/2019 12:37 pm  

One thing I've felt about the 2020 election is the EC will hand it to Trump, but the EC is compromised. The Democratic candidate will again win the popular vote. That's been what has happened in 1876, 1888, 2000, 2016, when the winner of the popular vote was selected and the president was a minority president. I'm with Jimmy Carter when he says he thinks history will show the 2016 EC vote was tampered with. In reality, only 270 voters are needed to elect the president, the popular vote does not matter, and states differ as to who becomes an Elector and how the EC votes are allocated. The EC has no place in modern republic. But enough of my lecturing.

I had an odd dream where I'm watching 2020 election results on MSNBC. Rachel Maddow is there, Chris Matthews isn't, but Brian Williams, Joy Reid, David Jolly, and Chris Hayes are. The Senate and House went overwhelmingly Democrat, but Trump was reelected but it's rumored he will resign because of the audio recordings and videos. McConnell was refusing to concede despite a 9+ percent lead by Harrison. (I don't know what they are, I don't think we know about them yet.) I remember they said Trump is "in seclusion at Mar-A-Lago" and extra armed guards are there, and the Secret Service is trying to get them removed because they are Trump's personal security; then they said earlier in the day someone had been arrested for raising a Russian flag at the Doral Golf Club. Then they broke election coverage to go back to breaking news from the UK. That's when I woke up, and I'm really wondering what that breaking news is!

I think we're gonna have a bumpy ride.


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11/07/2019 2:45 pm  

Hi, It started snowing for the first time this winter (Fall).. ok we had something similar to snow but it wasn't snow and this here is real snow....

It made me feel incredibly tired, plus my eyes were strained from reading so I lay down, shut my eyes for a bit of a snooze. When I woke up the song in my head was "Sink with California" by Youth Brigade... only the chorus

So I am thinking there may be some earthquake activity and perhaps some coastline loss with it coming up... Or it can be something else as it is an Anti- Nationalism anthem. It was so odd, I haven't listened to that song in decades-- well actually, it played as background music in a show I watched with my husband last summer. It is a call back from 1980's hardcore punk. I've included a link to the song on YouTube on the bottom. Remember, this is from the 1980s, in the midst of a DIY underground music scene so production values are what one might expect from teenagers in the pre-digital days.

Here are the lyrics if you are interested:

YOUTH BRIGADE LYRICS

"Sink With California"

Well I've been around the country
And I've met a lot of kids
Some kids are smart and some kids are dumb
But I don't pass judgement they're just having fun
Some kids get fucked up and others refrain
But that's what makes the world so great
No one should be the same
The kids of the future
you can see it in their eyes
They must overcome nationality
If the World is to survive

And we'll sink with California
When it falls into the sea

Oi I'm not from England, Je Ne Suis pas de France
Ich bin nicht von Deutschland and I can't dance
Well I could say California it means nothing to me.
I despise nationality
Shouldn't say that you're from
north, south, east or west
It's humanity that is the best

Yo no soy Mexico, no Sano De Italia
That's all the languages we know
And actually we're from Canada
Yes we love to travel, but we love to see
That California border, forever and a day
We'll sink with California
When it falls into the sea

From the mountains, to the prairies
From the desert to the sea
I'd say California, it means nothing to me
I despise territoriality
I don't care if you're from north, south, east or west
live for humanity, forget the rest.
Yo I'm not from New York, I'm not from Boston
Y'all I ain't from Texas and I'm not patriotic
Cause the only patriotism that we really need
Is to sink with the world, with humanity and me

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybz9fSjD2DY


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11/07/2019 4:03 pm  

@rowsella

Last night I dreamt of large open-sided tented structures being set up in a very organized fashion in a park-like setting, in preparation to serve as shelter and relief centers.  I currently live in L.A.  Honestly not certain what city (nor even what coast!) this dream was referencing.  Also not sure if it reflected a real impending physical catastrophe, like an earthquake, or if it was symbolic of something even bigger.  As I reflect upon the dream image today, I'm kinda leaning toward symbolic, perhaps related to California's steadfast intention to recognize and prepare for mounting environmental crises and to participate in the Paris Climate Agreement despite Trump pulling the U.S. out yesterday.  

I despise territoriality
I don't care if you're from north, south, east or west
live for humanity, forget the rest.

This phrase from the lyrics you posted reminds me of the heart of Lennon's "Imagine."  Both sets of lyrics are timeless and are, I think, perfect anthems in response to Trump's egotistical, greed-based, short-sighted decision to pull out of the Paris Climate Agreement.

Thanks for sharing, @rowsella!


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11/07/2019 6:35 pm  
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@rowsella

Last night I dreamt of large open-sided tented structures being set up in a very organized fashion in a park-like setting, in preparation to serve as shelter and relief centers.  I currently live in L.A.  Honestly not certain what city (nor even what coast!) this dream was referencing.  Also not sure if it reflected a real impending physical catastrophe, like an earthquake, or if it was symbolic of something even bigger.  As I reflect upon the dream image today, I'm kinda leaning toward symbolic, perhaps related to California's steadfast intention to recognize and prepare for mounting environmental crises and to participate in the Paris Climate Agreement despite Trump pulling the U.S. out yesterday.  

 

I lived in Southern California for the Northridge earthquake.  One thing I will never forget is how many people got out their camping gear after the quake and lived in tents.  People erected tents on their personal property.  Tents were erected in city parks.  For weeks.  

So when you spoke of tents, my mind flashed to the aftermath of the Northridge quake.  6 members of my immediate family were displaced by that quake. 


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11/07/2019 7:05 pm  

@lovendures

I was living in L.A. in Jan. '94, too.  The earthquake caused devastating damage.  So sorry to learn so many of your family members were displaced (trauma on top of trauma).  The afternoon before it struck I was feeling inexplicably uneasy and convinced my college freshman daughter (going to LMU, as you know, very local) and my high school junior daughter to come with me on a last minute mini-vacation in Palm Springs.  The next morning when the earthquake struck the greater L.a. area we didn't feel a thing in the desert--but when we returned home, our house and my office were in shambles.

The open-sided tented structures (orange, for what that's worth!) in last night's dream weren't small family-sized ones, rather they were very large and each could accommodate a gathering of hundreds.  That's one more reason why this image felt symbolic of a larger purpose, and that's why I think it might have been a dream about the awareness of needing to prepare for the negative effects of climate change--especially because this dream was within hours of Trump withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement, and knowing that CA is one of the parts of the U.S. that takes climate change seriously and is committed to continuing to work with the Agreement.

Thank you for your thoughtful response, @lovendures, and again, really sorry your family was so directly affected by the '94 earthquake--living through such an experience can leave you feeling rattled for a long, long time.


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11/08/2019 2:31 pm  

I had a brief and wild dream last night, in which:

I was cooking dinner in my kitchen and listening to the radio (I don't have a radio in my kitchen anymore but do listen to podcasts via phone/bluetooth speaker, but in the dream this was normal). I heard the announcer say: "Our governor is addressing the crowd now" (I thought it was Newsome but I'm not sure). And then I heard the governor say: "Fellow Californians, unfortunately now is the time to stand strong and fight for what we believe in. We will have to take up arms to defend against the forces of fascism that are threatening our way of life. We may be a state of dreamers but we will not be cowed..."

At this point in the dream I decided to go to the living room and turn on the TV, where I saw/heard the same scene. I saw many adults in front of the governor, carrying big guns, all wearing blue uniforms, looking in what I took to be the general direction of our eastern state line/the horizon, at which point I thought "Wow, we're really doing this."

Then I woke up.


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11/08/2019 7:15 pm  

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Wow.  Well, authoritarianism is coming close at hand and I’m not sure how many people in the general public recognize the threat.  We recognize it and a lot of followers on this site recognized the danger and dark energy from early on.  In the midst of this turmoil,   we need to be vigilant with our positive energy.  Namaste.


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11/08/2019 7:51 pm  

@laura-f

That was one hell of a dream! Hard to know if these are fears or premonitions!

 

Anita


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