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First of all, you guys are amazing. It's a lot easier to break things down when others offer advice on recognizing the details. I usually just ball the whole dream up into one huge thing. Maybe due to the intensity. 

Secondly, I had another restless night, waking up in sweat again. Last night's dream was more detailed in the "feelings" I was experiencing: 

I'm back in the same spot as the dreams before. *detail: I am at the 4 way stop a block up from my house. (Maybe a crossroads interpretation) The sky is very dark, a storm is heading our way and I feel VERY much like it's an emergency situation. The houses around me are rubble. There are 2 that are still standing and I know the people living there have prepared for this and they're hiding. I know they won't come out and help or see if others are ok. Survival is the only thing they care about. 

The weird thing about this dream is that I think or I know that there are *robots?!* or maybe some kind of Big Brother thing surveying the entire country and whatever this "thing" is, is bad and I can't let it see me. 

My dad finally makes it to me, we run back to my house where my family is waiting. They're packing supplies in the car very frantically. We're heading to the mountain  (again). 

Lovendures, as far as this mountain is concerned, I know it provides shelter and I know it will protect us from the wind. Some kind of bad wind is coming. If we get to the mountain, I know we will be safe up high and in some kind of cave? 

Weather wise, it's hard to tell. I would say early fall. The grass is brown everywhere. The leaves are missing from the trees. But it's dusty. Everywhere. The winds are very bad and it's difficult manage. I'm not cold though, which would be odd for pnw in fall. 

As far as the crossroads, this is a confusing part for me. My relationship with my dad is healthy. Our family is pretty solid. 

One thing that just came to mind though and HOLY CRAP I HAVE CHILLS.... in my comments prior, I mentioned to you all that a seer had told me once that I was meant to be here by the mountain. She said, "when the beings from the mountains reveal themselves, it will be because we as humans have reached our breaking point. Society as a whole will need their help. Your job is to be a helper. You were brought here to help those who cannot see the light." 

Crossroads: being pulled between saving my own ass and family, or sticking it out and helping others. 

....and I'm also just realizing the part where I know the neighbors are hiding but won't come out, is another huge sign in that regard too. Wow.

Ok. I need a drink. To be continued.  

 


   
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I *think* what's been happening all week in these dreams is almost a storyline playing out and the finalization coming to some sort of real life conclusion. 

I know, without a shadow of a doubt that were going to experience some kind of whacko weather event this year and it's going to cause chaos. Earthquake, maybe. Volcano, possibly. (I'm speaking in terms of pnw area) But I think it's just a precursor to something much bigger that will transpire OR it'll be like a one-two punch. Huge earth event, combined with bad politics, that get us into really big trouble. Something is going to happen though and things will be very different for a long while before they get better. Maybe the darkness I see and the robots are a symbolism of the fascism I'm fearing we are slowly entering? Maybe the need to hide is not so subtle hints in that regard? 

And maybe the *ah ha* moment I just had in terms of helping is in regards to all of the people I fear will be punished for their beliefs, race, etc. Maybe I wish to hide them? I truly am so fearful for everyone who does not fit into this resurrected "American Profile." If you're not white, Christian, have 2 kids and a picket fence, attend church every Sunday and have a college education, you're a waste of space. :-( 


   
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Perriwinkle, I’ve been following your posts with interest as I, too, live in the PNW, only on an island in the Sound.  Several years ago, I had a dream about a tsunami in the Puget Sound.  This dream  occurred several years before I returned to the PNW and before I had any idea we would move here.  Yet I can still remember the dream vividly.

In the dream, my husband and I were on a rocky island beach when we saw the water in the Sound pull back towards the ocean.  Knowing a tsunami was imminent, we started climbing upland from the shore, pulling ourselves up through the trees, scrambling, grabbing small trees and branches, going higher and higher, hoping we could get high enough from sea level to be safe when the waters came rushing back.

So of course I live on an island now...  We are all of us on this island aware of our vulnerability and potential isolation for weeks after an earthquake, so we practice preparedness.  

Your dreams are frightening, yet I’m not picking up any premonitions myself yet.  I will post if I do.  My intuition tells me that you are where you’re supposed to be.


   
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Bluebelle, 

I'm heading to Orcas Island tomorrow! Crazy to think how close some of us are to one another. 

I'm relieved to some extent that you're not picking up any scary premonitions in regards to weather. You're always spot on. Maybe I'm just paranoid, who knows!! 


   
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Perriwinkle 10, there have been 4 dozen small earthquakes at Mt. St. Helens just recently according to King5 news.  I would say you’ve had a hit.  Remarkable.


   
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You're kidding?? 

I'm sitting cuddled up with the kitties listening to this crazy thunder, maybe I should do some reading on that. Thanks BlueBelle!


   
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this is long -- so if TL:DR - the upshot is things may well become worse than we are willing to currently accept.

I'm reading this interesting history book titled "Before the Deluge: A Portrait of Berlin in the 1920s" by Otto Friedrich.  It is basically a recounting of the political, intellectual (as well as anti-intellectual), cultural and economic forces through Berlin and Germany between the end of WW1 to the rise of Hitler- I think the last year it covers is 1934. Anyway, this time in Berlin is extremely interesting to me as it contains the art and architecture, music, theatre, that were the beginnings of movements I just love and enjoy. Despite the economic depressions which occurred (currency frequently lost all its value), there was still great intellectuals of that time that shaped the modern world. 

"What were the elements of Berlin in the 1920's? " he asks aloud. "First, Marxism and pacifism; then psychoanalysis--here we really lived with Freud; then theatre, music, art and so on; and radical educations experiments... When I started at University of Berlin in 1926, I was already a member of the Communist Party. In 1928, I was the national leader of the Communist student group. And in 1929, I was expelled, for what they called "right-wing deviation.'"

"What did that involve?"

"I was against splitting the trade-union movement, and I was against treating the Social Democrats as 'Social Fascists,' as the others called them. I still had some common sense."

"The creative intellectuals--Brecht, for example--never really understood what was happening." he says, "In fact, one of the most striking things about the whole Weimar period, and perhaps this is where I should have started, is the gulf between the small minority of intellectuals and the general mood of the country." So it seems that history does repeat itself and it is helpful to review and not perceive the times we live in now are so original.  Dreams too-- can give us perception for the future but can also provide some delusion as well-- Here is another excerpt which actually motivated me to post here about what I am reading: 
Kathe Kollwitz, the artist https://www.theartstory.org/artist-kollwitz-kathe.htm had made a pilgrimage to a small village in Belgium to visit the grave of her 18 year old son Peter who had died in a battle in WW1. After seeing his grave and placing some roses upon it she wrote her surviving son a letter about it. She also writes:

"Tonight... I dreamed there would be another war; another was threatening to break out. And in the dream I imagined that if I dropped other work entirely and together with others devoted all my strength to speaking against the war, we could prevent it."

The author continues: "She was wrong, of course. The war was more than a decade away, and when its time came, no group of artists could prevent it. Art never stops war, after all, any more than satire does, or armies of women marching with banners of protest. The only thing that stops war is defeat not necessarily defeat in the battlefield but defeat in the sense of recognition that too much money is being lost and, almost incidentally, too much blood. But if art does not stop wars, it may yet convince the survivors that military victory or military defeat need not be our basic standards. "The function of literature." as Ezra Pound said, ". . . is . . . that it does incite humanity to continue living." 

I was torn between posting this in the books or the dreams thread. What struck me most though, was her prophetic dream. I think of the people of that time, how many probably had prophetic dreams and their desperate spirit and guides looked to give them hope so as to live through what horrors were ahead and what this book tells me is that tools to survive such monstrous times are the tools of hope and transcendence: art, literature, poetry, meditation/prayer, beauty of nature, and gratitude for our lived and loved moments.

Eh, maybe these first two Democratic Debates have put me in a funk. However, my mind goes there too when I consider how the helpers, the lightworkers are waking up and finding our communities, so many of us... as if we need this army -- I get that we will be given, or discover we actually have what we need to confront and to process what is coming but...if this is a cycle, what kind of cycle is this and why do we need so many? 

The tagline for Game of Thrones brings "Winter is Coming" to my mind. In that story the armies of Danerys arrive just in time for the big war against the Winter King (the tools were provided when they were needed....) And they had a seemingly endless army of the Dead to battle only to have to face their own interior demons. (something tells me that Martin would have dragged that "endless night" into at least a few months if not a year or five of war-- it was just tied up to neatly for anything written by him). I think sometimes the art of the times informs the people -- if not prophecy, their fears and their possible solutions in a very symbolic or Jungian language.

 

 


   
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Perriwinkle 10, I agree. My higher angels have repeatedly told me to stay away from politics.

One thing after another has shown me they were right.  My mind and my heart needed a far different focus.

Now, I feel you are right as well. Too many events lining up for me, as well. Right down to PNW concerns.

Take care and bless you for your gifts and your work. ? 

 


   
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I believe that Alzheimer's and individuals with other forms of dementia are not always in this plane, but sometimes straddle this one and the spiritual. Sometimes my mother will see people or things that I know are not hallucinations or just the result of the plaques in her brain. 

Early this morning, she woke before sunrise and I went to help her to the bathroom. As she sat up, she was still dealing with the images that were present in her sleep. She told me that all of her girlfriends didn't work. Only the men worked. It seemed as if she was just revisiting her younger years, when that was mostly true. As we walked thru the bedroom, she continued, and said that the men were in power, and that was changing. She clearly told me that women will soon be in charge. 

Funny thing too (sorry Michele, it's political in nature-hugs ❤️ ), when I woke, I was hearing the refrain to a song I hadn't heard in eons. By the time I got mom back into bed, I couldn't recall what those lyrics were that I wanted to check out. I found the time for a short nap this afternoon, and lo and behold, as I woke, I heard the same refrain. "More, More, More" a song from the mid 70's. I looked up the lyrics since I couldn't remember anything more than two lines "how do you like it, how do you like it; more, more, more." Reading the lyrics kind of gave me chills (not in a good way). The first verse asks how do you like your love, and mentions to get the cameras rolling, get the action going. I don't know the intent of the lyrics, but given the current news headlines, my mind went to Epstein. I read thru one more time, and Mango came to mind as well. I was left wondering it if was a hint that there really are tapes or other incriminating evidence out there that will be coming to light. 


   
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Cindy - as a former denizen of the disco scene in the 70s in NYC, I can tell you the origin story of that song. It was sung by a porn actress as a soundtrack song to a porno movie. The intention of the song was to titillate. Porn and titillation have nothing to do with adult love, so I can see how your mind (and spirit) would link that particular song with what's going on with Epstein, Kelly, Twitler, et al.

I think you may be right about video evidence coming to the forefront in many of these cases.


   
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I had a dream last night I feel I needed to share.  My dream started with me walking into my sunroom and a man was sitting there. It took me a while to figure out who he was, I asked if he was Telly Savalas he said not today, today I am Lt Theo Kojak.  He put his hand on my shoulder and we were standing behind a cinder block building it was very hot and the humidity was overwhelming. A van pulled up and 2 men took 3 children out then into the building.  When they came back out they were carrying 4 bundles wrapped in those mylar blankets. I asked Kojak what do they have in the blankets? He replied the dead. I was horrified. Where are they taking them? To be disposed of. This happens every day. Most are creamated, so there’s no evidence that they were ever here. Greed is a very powerful tool. I asked how do we stop this? He replied there are some with knowledge of this that will bring it to light, but the darkness is so strong. then I woke up. I’m having a hard time dealing with this dream. I want to lash out at these people, hit them with the full force of my anger for what they are doing to these migrant children ( all migrants).


   
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Robin - first, I love how your spirit guide/angel cast himself as Kojak (once one presented to me as John Denver), I love how at times they show a little sense of humor in their choices even when their overall message is quite serious.

You're right to be horrified. Children are disappearing. All we can do is keep up the pressure on elected representatives - to halt the cruelty, to start impeachment, etc. I email or call someone every day. Where I live we have a Rapid Response Network, which I have wanted to join, but their orientations always seem to happen when I'm not around. Look into if there's something like that near you, they exist in most major cities. Find out if your city is a sanctuary city. If so, keep supporting the entities that keep it that way, if not, start threatening to vote their a$$es out.


   
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@laura-f

I live about 14 miles outside of Pittsburgh, luckily for me most of my politicians are Democrats and I call them all the time about the concentration camps and starting impeachment. 


   
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Links to an org that works in Pittsburgh:

Labor Council for Latin American Advancement

LCLAA Pittsburgh on FB

 


   
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@laura-f

Thank you for the information. I’ll check it out.


   
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I had a dream last night that one of my neighbors was selling all his household effects in his yard. He was "losing his home." I was very sad about this. I asked my husband where he was going and he said he did not know. In my dream, my neighbor had a daughter (he is childless in real life) and she was vague and when I asked him he would not say. I asked if he was going to a veterans' home and he said "something like that." He has become more frail-- elderly, he has been walking with a cane in the past month and I can't shake the feeling this dream was telling me this "move" is metaphorical. I know he has a heart condition. Tomorrow I think I am going to come by his house with a casserole and see how he is doing. 


   
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I had a dream back in May about rising seas and the future of the economy that I've been wanting to share for awhile:

I'm in lower Manhattan, walking with a late-middle aged woman whose clothes and hairstyle hint that she's rather wealthy. She's proudly talking to me about all of the different ways the area is adapting to coastal flooding. She seems especially proud when she tells me that plans are in the work to encircle lower Manhattan in a berm made entirely out of seaweed. I part ways with the woman at the waterfront near Wall Street, and soon I'm walking out on a very long wooden pier that protrudes into the space where the East River and New York Harbor meet. When I reach the end of the pier, I look behind me, and the Manhattan skyline looks altered. It seems like many skyscrapers have disappeared and that the city is less dense and crowded than it used to be. I get the impression that New York City is no longer the center of power it used to be. Meanwhile, all up and down the pier, families and groups of friends from all racial backgrounds are casting fishing rods and hauling up enormous fish that look like bass, and I smile at the peacefulness of the scene. Actually, everyone's rather joyful and carefree, which is a far cry from NYC's normal neuroticism. They're all aware of the changes that are going on, but they're more intent on being grateful for the present moment.   

Then I'm on a Metro North commuter train heading from NYC to Connecticut, which is where I grew up. I have reunited with the woman I was with earlier, and she introduces me to another late-middle aged woman whose hairstyle and clothing hint at money. Woman #1 tells me that woman #2 lives in Greenwich (Connecticut's uber-wealthy suburb of NYC), and I am shown an image of a redbrick mansion completely surrounded Long Island Sound. I tell woman #2, "So you live in that house on that island?." She nods yes and sheepishly responds "Well it's not actually an island. We're connected to the mainland during low tide." Dream over.

When I went through the long-term predictions on this site, there was a vision posted for the late 2020s that saw wealthy people trying to vainly hold on to their comfortable, decadent way of life while everyone else was adapting to reality. That vision sums up the two women in my dream. They were deluding themselves into thinking that they could maintain their privileged lifestyles despite the blaring obvious (a house increasingly surrounded by the ocean, the cluelessness of thinking a wall of seaweed will hold back the tides).This prediction from Molly for 2026 describes the mood I got from the people who were fishing on the pier: "Simpler life in many ways, happier, picking ourselves out of a big hole." When I saw in my dream that Manhattan looked reduced in stature, I got the sense that that demotion was due just as much to the collapse of our economic paradigm of growth and competition as it was to rising oceans. The people on the pier were joyful because they were no longer constrained by the demands of competing for a wage. In turn, they could focus more on being present and were learning how to live off of the providence of nature (signified by the giant fish they were catching).      

 


   
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@Coyote, Interesting dream filled with meaning and prompting so much food for thought.  Thank you for sharing it  

The people fishing on the pier in an odd way reminds me of a vision I had years ago of South Florida near the end of the century.  

The land was gone —flooded over by the sea, and in its place I saw hundreds of pleasure boats — sail boats mainly —enjoying a unique tourist experience of boating over abandoned highways, shopping centers, and hotels and homes.

The easy going atmosphere of a mostly abandoned Manhattan also fits visions I’ve had of the eastern seaboard over the long term. I saw in my minds eye the lower eastern seaboard around the Carolina’s looking ever so peaceful with tropical low lying trees and grasses for miles inland. No roads, shops or residences.  But a place people may go for sport. 

 I have no doubt that some cities will build  barriers to stave off the inevitable just as they said in your dream.   

But these are not your father’s rising seas. This is not what the Dutch dealt with for centuries.  This is a level of sea rise that will continue to keep coming, unrelenting, higher and faster than humans had ever dreamed in their worst imaginings.  

So like in your dream, no human activity at this point will save the coastlines and their cities.

your dream also has me thinking that long before Manhattan is flooded over, the big bustling  commercial center of Manhattan will be gone. Perhaps one big storm will send people out of NYC or perhaps it will be a series of storms.  And insurance companies will stop covering the place.   

Interesting about some of the wealthy I’m the dream — the last to act. 

 

 


   
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You're right about the flood barrier plans, Jeanne. The "berm made out of seaweed" mentioned by the woman in my dream was my dream consciousness channeling my previous response to plans NYC is currently making to construct a series of levees, parks, and seawalls along lower Manhattan (dubbed the Big U). I had been extremely skeptical about the viability of those plans, based as they are on linear projections of sea level rise; with the true exponential nature of rising oceans in mind, the city may as well be building a flimsy wall of seaweed.

So when will people finally give up on New York City? My dream left a strong impression that the inevitable implosion of our economic landscape will be one of the "storms" that will make NYC irrelevant. NYC derives its outsize status from the unsustainable growth-based model of investment capital. When members of the financial class start getting laid off in the near- to mid-future because their employers are no longer solvent (think Lehman Brothers bankruptcy times 100), hundreds of thousands of other people, from taxi drivers to day care workers to restaurateurs, will also lose their jobs because their patrons will be out of cash. After all of that, coastal flooding and hurricanes will probably drive the nail into the coffin. I'm thinking of how many residential properties in NYC are insured through the barely-functional NFIP, and also how vulnerable and antiquated NYC's subway system is. Public transit is the lifeblood of New York, and without a robust tax base, city officials won't be able to resurrect the subways from the next major flooding event (or series of floods) like they did after Hurricane Sandy.  


   
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I had the following dream two nights ago. I’m including my interpretation, but am interested in what others may pick up about it.

I am at a beach with one or two other people. My husband “AP” is also there. AP wants me to “capture” a perfect wave.  I’m trying to capture a wave by using a software snipping tool, but it is difficult because the waves are too big and breaking too fast. I see a few perfect waves, that is, they are small enough to capture and perfectly formed. As I am watching the water from the edge of the ocean I see an envelope floating on the water nearby. I see it is addressed to AP and has already been opened, with paper still in the envelope. The envelope is from the Sierra Club. I think it is a renewal notice. I tell AP and he tells me to get it. While this is going on I notice there seems to be something big under the water. I think it might be a turtle or maybe it’s just some rocks. Then I see the head of a seal poke out of the water. It’s not a monk seal. I’m surprised. It’s bigger than a monk seal and I think I see some tusks, like a walrus. But I call out “It’s a seal!” The seal then walks out of the water (on two legs) and I see that he is covered in big sores. He (I know it is a he) tells me he came from Texas and now he is going farther west. (He might have said something like he needs to go to California.)

My interpretation: I think the perfect wave has to do with a blue wave in the 2020 election. I often use a software snipping tool in my work and at first I thought I was using it in my dream because it is something I am used to doing. However, now that I think about it more, I think even that could have a deeper symbolic meaning. We need to put in some work to capture a perfect blue wave in the 2020 election. I think the floating Sierra Club renewal notice symbolizes a renewal of interest/ a reopening of the recognition of the  importance of environmental protection. It is an issue that is floating right at the top. As for the seal, in my dream I at first I think it’s probably a turtle. It is quite common to see sea turtles in the water where I live in Hawaii. They can be very large, but they are harmless. The big thing under the water felt ominous, though. It wasn’t nothing/just rocks. Some may think the thing that wasn’t a turtle symbolizes Moscow Mitch McTreason, but I don’t think so. It was bigger. It is something that is “sealed” and has been hiding underwater. It is big and ugly and sick (the sores). It is not good (not spiritual/religious - not a monk). Perhaps it has foreign connotations. (Monk seals are the only type of seals that live in Hawaii - any other type would be foreign.) For some reason I think of Ted Cruz when I think of the seal saying he came from Texas. I don’t know what the going farther west means. I’m not sure what the walrus-life tusks symbolize either. Overall, I feel positive about the dream. I am titling it “Something Under the Surface that has been Sealed and is Sick is Revealed”. 


   
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