[Solved] Michael Bloomberg
@jeanne-mayell I understand, but that does mean you would vote a third party? Which is what my sister did in 2016. She did it as a protest out of hatred for Hillary. Hillary already had the electoral votes for our state. That's another thing - how do we convince people their votes count if you already know your state went a certain way? I was registered in NYC in 2008 and flew in to vote against Bush even though I knew it was useless. Not everyone thinks like I do.
I would never split the vote and I certainly wouldn't encourage such a thing so thank you for bringing that up. I want to make that clear in any of these discussions. We need to beat T and the Republicans.
I think one of the reasons we don't clearly hear or see who the candidate is and who wins the election is because there are two roads /a fork in the road for the energy to go.
1. Trump resigns or leaves somehow Before the election.
2. Trump is still in the game.
Those two things change who the candidate will be and who would win. So If Trump is still in the game I can see Bloomberg and a woman being the team to beat him. This is not my wish at all, just what I can see being the way it would go. Perhaps Bloomberg would pick an Amy Klobuchar, or Stacy Abrams or even Kamala Harris...we shall see.
If Trump is gone however, that radically changes the way this would go. Bloomberg got into the race for several reasons I'm sure, but one was he didn't want to see Trump win another term. So if Trump is no longer a factor, he may just put his money behind whoever would be the next candidate IF it's someone he supported. He would definitely be more inclined to support a corporate democrat. Who would be the candidate? Who would the GOP put up? (Could it be Romney or Pence as POTUS and Nikki Haley as VP for the GOP?)
I am a Warren and Bernie fan and think they should be our next leadership. I don't care which one gets in as long as one did. I also think Pete would not be a big change agent and get little done while he is there, even though I like him. He would be better off as a VP, a little on the job training, plus he wouldn't have to satisfy all those millionaire donors who he would owe big time.
This is all just my opinion!
Although I like Sanders and Warren's ideas, I don't see them as winning a general election. I like Mayor Pete, but he is only 37. I like M. Bloomberg, and thought I might vote for him, but Malcolm Nance said he claims to be a Democrat, but he is really a Republican. I like J. Biden, but he has that negative campaign against him. I still don't see anybody who can beat trump. Hurry up Somebody and step up.
Some of your words in your recent post made me remember something I expressed recently under the "Sanders" thread. At the time I was questioning why I wasn't seeing a Democrat in the WH in 2021. I saw that I posted I do feel some of this hinges on what happens with T from here until the election. So it looks like you and I are in sync with that.
About Bloomberg: I heard him state that he would support and put his money behind whomever the D nominee might be. I hope that support would also include a Sanders or Warren, should that occur. AND I hope that he puts his mega-bucks behind those Ds running for Congress in 2020.
@deetoo Maybe the reason you didn't see a democrat in the White House in 2021 is because Bernie and Bloomberg aren't democrats. They're using the democratic party to run for president, but Bernie's an independent/democratic socialist, and Bloomberg is a former republican/sort of independent/not really a democrat. If either wins there won't be a "real" democrat in the WH, although at this point either would be a welcome relief from the current insanity.
Hi everyone. If Bernie is not a democrat (BRING IT ON!) Bloomberg would possibly explain @deetoo's feeling of not having a democrat in office. I think (if what some of us have seen happens) that Trump will probably not even be a factor come November. If I'm wrong then I can see folks trying to elect Bloomberg. My feeling, however, is we need Bernie and Elizabeth more than ever. If Bernie picks Elizabeth as his VP then that would be (at this point because of the caucuses so far) the dream team.
Ryan Cooper of The Week discusses how far off the mark it would be for democrats to pick Bloomberg, though winning against T is definitely the #1 goal right now. I agree with Ryan that Bernie is the right one, even though you will hear everyone say a "socialist" can't win against T. I say Hogwash!
Dont get your hopes up on Bernie picking Warren as VP. He will have to pick someone moderate to help unite the party-most likely Klobuchar or Buttigieg. Similarly, if one of the moderates win the nomination, they will pick Warren or, more likely, Bernie as their VP. The chasm between the ultra progressive and moderate left is something that Trump is already starting to attack and it will have to be carefully maneuvered by the Dems to keep it from becoming a key point in a Trump victory like it did in 2016.
I would be very happy if a moderate picked Bernie or Warren as VP. I just want someone who can affect real change in climate change and healthcare and make real reforms in our government. Winning the senate is just as important since we need to eliminate the electoral college. We also need to reform the senate. North Dakota should, for instance, have one senator, while California should have 3. It should be based on population (I don't think they will ever get rid of the senate even if that is a good idea). Stacey Abrams has been making the news circuit lately (she was on the View) and I think that certain candidates might look at her as a VP pick too.
I've never said this before but I listened to Tom Steyer the other day. I know he is a millionaire etc. but I actually liked him. I don't think he has a chance but I just thought I would mention it.
@triciact, I think winning the Senate is critical -- even more important than winning the WH. I say that, of course, hoping that by the time the election occurs, T will no longer be in office. But we have GOT to boot MoscowM out of there. If he's still in charge and a Dem wins the WH, nothing will get through the Senate.
I've listened to Tom Steyer a few times, and believe he is a really decent guy.
@yogagirl, how do things look in Kentucky? I keep hearing how unpopular Mitch is, yet people keep voting him back into office.
@deetoo MoscowMitch is very unpopular in Ky. Amy McGraft is running against him and they are neck and neck in the polls. That being said, Mitch is a snake and has been know to come. Up with last minute big bombs. When Bush was leaving it was no child left behind’. There was Mitch smiling (which is really creepy)and taking credit using it to campaign etc. as soon as the election was over he killed the bill. Same with promising the coal miners to fund their disability and help the ones who had worked for companies who closed to get their benefits. Didn’t happen. Unfortunately Ky has a very large income gap and we are smack dab in theBible belt. There were miners in Eastern Ky who said they liked Hillary better than Turd but wouldn’t vote for a women for religious reasons! On the up side we just voted out another snake that was our Governor. He tried to ruin the public schools and destroy healthcare. Amy is a very strong candidate, she is a retired Marine fighter pilot. She has been running ads on TV and has been all over the state. As to what will happen, I m afraid no one knows. I guarantee you Mitch will do anything to win and keep his power.