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06/05/2020 11:04 pm  

@jeanne-mayell

Umm... Jeanne, I see most people on this site really expressing themselves in the light.... thank Spirit and the honest desire to manifest Spirit, in all it's myriad forms....


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06/05/2020 11:35 pm  

@polarberry what did he say about his mom? I missed that.


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06/05/2020 11:44 pm  

@jewels I don't know, but I remember Nixon doing that at the end, too.


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06/06/2020 12:25 am  

@suspira44.  Now I'm really curious:) 


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06/06/2020 12:39 am  

@vestralux, @jeanne-mayell, here is a story with many of the same concerns you have about Erik Prince.  Forgive me for not just providing the link.  I am still figuring things out around here.

 

Bill Barr's New "Troops" In D.C. Look Like An Awful Lot Like Erik Prince's Blackwater Goons

By Denis Elliott, Daily Sound and Fury

Erik Prince’s notorious company Blackwater has gone through name changes and iterations since their out of control antics when Bush 43 was President led to the loss of their federal contracts. However, Prince has never given up on his dream of his organization taking over large swaths of tasks that should be the province of the U.S. Armed Forces. And civilian law enforcement as well. In the United States. Since being reined in by the Obama administration from his self-imposed semi exile Prince has continued to hire out his mercenaries, but as I said has never given up on re-establishing a significant role in U.S. military and law enforcement work. At four or five times the cost to taxpayers that our actual military and LE cost of course!

I’ve kicked myself for not thinking of it right away, but one image (I’ve looked and looked but can’t find that specific one) in particular I saw stuck in my head. Something about it was familiar. There are of course other images of “federal law enforcement” dudes in DC geared up for bear yet with nothing on their “uniforms” indicating who they are or what agency they are from. The few who will respond to questions will only say they are “with the Department of Justice.” In case you didn’t know the DOJ has regular federal cops providing security at the main building in DC and at some of their other locations. If you’ve ever been into a federal courthouse you’ve seen them, or if away from DC more likely some local yokels from some regular security agency manning the entrances. They are most definitely NOT the kind of beefed up dudes that have suddenly appeared in our nation’s capital. The “we represent the DOJ” guys look much more like soldiers than cops. Not even most SWAT officers are as beefed up (steroids?) and geared up as these dudes.

Anyway it’s been bugging the hell out of me, these lines of guys who look more like not just soldiers who spend more time in the weight room bodybuilding than actually training. They look, and are equipped more like mercenaries and that’s when it hit me. They reminded me of the guys from Blackwater, or whatever the hell it’s known as these days.

Keep in mind that Erik Prince pitched a plan for his guys to completely take over operations in Afghanistan and eventually much of the Middle East. I again remind you at many times the cost of having our actual official Armed Forces already cost. And our official Armed Forces would still have to provide much of the logistical support such as sealift and airlift not to mention close air support during combat at times. Prince’s sister Betsy DeVoss took her position with every intent of leveraging it into shoveling a chunk of our tax dollars into her KKKristian “education” organizations. I’m sure Trump made sure he’d get his cut of the action but I digress. Erik knew he’d never make it through a confirmation hearing even with a GOP in Senate hands, but he had much, MUCH bigger designs on the federal treasury than his sister. He’d have never been able to secure the hundreds of billions in contracts he was hoping for if he was actually part of the administration.

So far he hasn’t gotten anything, but I fear that might have just changed. At the very least, I’m betting that the “uniforms” and gear so many of those new “we answer to the DOJ” forces are wearing have been supplied by Prince. They are dressed and geared up just like the guys you saw creating havoc over in Iraq. And given how “pumped up” some of those guys are I can’t help but believe some of them are Prince’s own guys. It might not be all that big a contract, but he’s the kind of guy who if he can get his foot in the door will steadily open that door wide enough to drive a tank through. And in Billy Barr he’s got an AG who if he can keep it under wraps long enough will expand Prince’s “mandate” to places all over the country – to provide “election security” at least in red states that have become vulnerable this year. Anyone want to guess where those mercenaries will be deployed? Voter intimidation could move to a level beyond our wildest fears.

I want journalists to flat out start asking Barr and the White House if DOJ has contracted or is even in discussions with Prince to provide his people for “security.” I want our people in Congress to be raising the same questions, and formally requesting the GAO and the DOJ’s own inspector general to look into DOJ contracts given out since Barr became AG. Barr is wily and despicable enough to have planned for using “federal law enforcement” in voter suppression efforts this fall.

I want to see legislation introduced that requires any law enforcement (state as well as federal) wearing riot/tactical gear and/or openly carrying a weapon to have their name, badge (with number visible) and agency displayed. This needs to happen now. The House Judiciary Committee should formally subpoena Erik Prince to answer questions about whether he has entered into ANY contracts with DOJ, or even held any discussions about doing so. Maybe I’m overly paranoid, but I’ve long since reached the point where I believe Barr will do ANYTHING to protect Trump. He’s in too deep himself and the only way to save his ass, and those of his offspring too is to save Trump’s. If that requires utilizing a mercenary like Prince then he’ll do it. However, Prince isn’t about to work for free and can’t be sure that even with his goons unleashed to do the kind of shit here they’ve done overseas Trump will win this fall. He does after all pay his people a shitload of money and he’s not going to front Trump (who so famously stiffs people he owes) who will control the RNC’s coffers at least until November to cover the cost. He’s going to want some serious payments along the way and that kind of money isn’t petty cash – it’s going to leave a trail. The kind of trail that can be found if someone knows who to ask and/or where to look.

So far our side has been playing defense, (rightfully) complaining about the lack of identification of just who is now patrolling the streets of DC without admitting who they are or who their actual parent agency is. It’s time to go on the offense. Say flat out these guys are dressed and geared up like mercenaries. Demand that Barr/the federal government prove they are not. Start, and keep asking question about whether Barr has the DOJ contracting with Prince or any other private outfit to provide “support services” for crowd control for protests. Put them on the defensive, and do it with questions on TV, and in Congress itself via floor speeches, hearings and proposed legislation. The spotlight is something that is almost as damaging to Prince (and to a lesser degree Barr) as sunlight to a vampire. So turn that sucker on and hold it on target.

 

 


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06/06/2020 12:50 am  

@jewels

He said, "I had a great mom. I loved my mom, and she loved me, which is probably not easy to do." "She was so good to me. I couldn't do any wrong, which is a big problem. Maybe that's why I ended up the way I ended up. I don't know. I couldn't do any wrong in her eyes."

Very telling, I think. Says to me that he knows there's a lot wrong with him.


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06/06/2020 12:51 am  

I love Lincoln Project. They hit where the mainstream media is afraid to.


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06/06/2020 1:10 am  
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@jewels

Lol. I'd love to see him taken out in handcuffs. 

#bunkerboy 

#BunkerBitch

 


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06/06/2020 1:26 am  

Re: The unnamed paramilitary in DC - yes some are prison guards from the fed prison system, the rest no one know yet.

And proven my point AGAIN that Dems have a habit of bringing their NPR tote bags to a gun fight - what did Pelosi do by way of response to this? Why of course! She wrote a sternly worded letter.

SMH


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06/06/2020 2:10 am  

@polarberry. Wow.  I read that his mother was very critical of him.  And I've wondered what it did to his psyche when his dad kicked him out of the house and off to boarding school at only 13 years, and his mother let him go. The empath in me hurts for him here. 


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06/06/2020 2:16 am  

@polarberry @jewels

A Clodwork Orange's mother was a piece of work, I think the narcissism came directly from her (another narcissist). And if Fred Drumpf had lived long enough to see his granddaughter marry a Jew, it would have probably killed him.

A nasty family, all around.


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06/06/2020 2:39 am  

@laura-f.  Have you heard "The Dollop" podcast on the Trumps?  There's ENDLESS weirdness, like Fred taking the kids to construction sites every Sunday to pick up nails.  Makes you wonder what Trump's grandparents were like.  [content removed]


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06/06/2020 7:20 am  

From what I have read, Prince has been all over the world trying to make money from selling professional army services amongst other things. I will include a few links to articles that describe a few activities in recent years: 

This is from March and it describes how he has been recruiting ex spies to infiltrate liberal groups for Project Veritas:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/politics/erik-prince-project-veritas.html

Involving himself in Venezuelan matters:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/13/venezuela-blackwater-founder-erik-prince-delcy-rodriguez

Questionable business in China: 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/erik-princes-company-plans-business-china-province-human/story?id=66139535

 

These are but a few of the things that he has been up to since the meeting in the Seychelles that was covered in the Mueller Report and his Blackwater activities are well known from the Gulf War days. 


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06/06/2020 7:41 am  

I have been reading and learning about aspects of planets and interested in the transits. One thing I think we should hold in respect to all the wild churning news that is occurring with protests/demonstrations etc. is the full moon eclipse. That much of what we hear is not true and some of what we think. One of the images given is the lights are out and the road is dark--do not choose a path of which you cannot see. Particularly in regards to the media. This is not a good time to be testing strained relationships. Sag is in a tight square with Mars (strong emotions giving way to anger)--squares are aspects of great tension, challenge and conflict)--opposing a Venus retrograde (influencing ease to give into angry confrontation instead of love, patience and forgiveness, previous conflict of principle or values in relationships re-emerging). There is also risk for earthquakes and drive to power, war, impulsive actions for at least the tight period of one month (before the next eclipse). I think it is a good time for cooler heads to slow things down if possible, avoid a rush to judgment, take a deep breath. I am staying home, away from the fray. I feel like the false light (rumor) still attracts moths and mosquitoes (bad actors) and it is better to keep the screen door closed. I think there will be misinformation and we should be discerning.


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06/06/2020 7:45 am  

@baba

Erik "Prince". The universe does have a warped sense of humor at times.


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06/06/2020 9:20 am  

one picture is worth a thousand words....

 

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06/06/2020 10:16 am  

@seeker4it

 

 Cadet Bonespurs is as big a coward as they come. He's ALREADY been calling the upcoming election "rigged" knowing he is likely to lose. [link needed] That is his usual M.O. He is so predictable in certain ways...


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06/06/2020 10:31 am  

@deetoo After seeing this image, the two words that come to my mind are "incompetence" and "cowardice." His botched COVID response is basically the nail in the coffin. Eventually, the walls will fall on him.


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06/06/2020 10:49 am  

@jewels. If you want to read about Trump's grandparents, there is plenty of fact-checked information on the web starting with History.com. 

Interesting fact about his grandfather Frederich, --  he came to the U.S. from Germany in 1885, avoiding compulsory three-year German military service.*

Then there was the family lie about being from Scandinavia rather than Germany, so as not to offend Jewish patrons in the real estate business: 

From History.com https://www.history.com/news/donald-trump-father-mother-ancestry

But for decades, Trump denied this German heritage altogether, instead claiming that his grandfather’s roots lay further north, in Scandinavia. “[He] came here from Sweden as a child,” Trump asserted in his co-written book The Art of the Deal. In fact, his cousin and family historian John Walter told The New York Times, Trump maintained the ruse at the request of his own realtor father, Fred Trump, who had obfuscated his German ancestry to avoid upsetting Jewish friends and clients. “After the war,” Walter told the Times, “he’s still Swedish. [The lie] was just going, going, going.”

*Thx to @2ndfdl correction below, apparently it was common practice then to leave Germany to avoid military service.


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06/06/2020 11:10 am  

@Isabelle Links to Trump calling the upcoming election rigged show how he himself might invalidate the 2020 election: 

Trump had falsely claimed by tweet that the democrats had cheated in the California special election by adding an extra polling place in a diverse area. The Guardian reported: 

But the county actually added the polling location at the request of the area’s Republican mayor.

In a move that could foreshadow his approach to November’s presidential election, Trump said Democrats were deliberately adding one of the few polling locations over the weekend in Lancaster, a city North of Los Angeles, where it was likely to benefit Democratic voters. “They are trying to steal another election. It’s all rigged out there. These votes must not count. SCAM!,” he tweeted. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/12/trump-foreshadows-how-he-could-undermine-presidential-election


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06/06/2020 11:48 am  

@jeanne-mayell

I believe also that Drumpf's mother was ironically a Scottish immigrant, from a remote island in the Hebrides. Not Scandinavian. And Grandpa (Fred's father) ran a brothel for awhile when times were tough ... 


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06/06/2020 12:39 pm  
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@jewels. If you want to read about Trump's grandparents, there is plenty of fact-checked information on the web starting with History.com. 

Interesting fact about his grandfather Frederich, --  he came to the U.S. from Germany in 1885, avoiding compulsory three-year German military service. So draft dodging runs in the family.

Then there was the family lie about being from Scandinavia rather than Germany, so as not to offend Jewish patrons in the real estate business: 

From History.com https://www.history.com/news/donald-trump-father-mother-ancestry

But for decades, Trump denied this German heritage altogether, instead claiming that his grandfather’s roots lay further north, in Scandinavia. “[He] came here from Sweden as a child,” Trump asserted in his co-written book The Art of the Deal. In fact, his cousin and family historian John Walter told The New York Times, Trump maintained the ruse at the request of his own realtor father, Fred Trump, who had obfuscated his German ancestry to avoid upsetting Jewish friends and clients. “After the war,” Walter told the Times, “he’s still Swedish. [The lie] was just going, going, going.”

To be fair, there are a lot of Americans of German heritage today who can trace their ancestry back to immigrants leaving Germany in the mid to late-1880s in order to avoid compulsory military service. I'm married to one.

This is not to excuse or mitigate in any way the Mango Menace's personal history of draft-dodging, just to say that the Drumpf grandfather had a lot of company.


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06/06/2020 1:14 pm  
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@seeker4it

 

[content removed] Cadet Bonespurs is as big a coward as they come. He's ALREADY been calling the upcoming election "rigged" knowing he is likely to lose. [link needed] That is his usual M.O. He is so predictable in certain ways...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/trump-s-rigged-election-talk-sparks-fear-of-post-election-chaos/ar-BB14zwOn


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06/06/2020 1:24 pm  
@jeanne-mayell.  Fascinating.  His family will be studied in psychology classes from now on.  So much feral dysfunction, and predatory nature to boot.  Thanks for the History.com tip!  Addictive site, I  bet. Interesting note about draft dodging. In Germany back then, it seems noble to do so. 

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06/06/2020 1:38 pm  

Just a meme, but this cracked me up:
(couldn't remember which thread had the discussion of sage)

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06/06/2020 2:52 pm  

@polarberry.

It's ironic that the best anti-Trump ads come from Republicans.


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06/06/2020 2:59 pm  

@stargazer

Prince of darkness?


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06/06/2020 3:15 pm  

@2ndfdl  Thank you.  Always interested in the whole truth.  🙂  


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06/06/2020 4:50 pm  

@jewels

Lols ... or not so lols? Was actually going to put that down next to the unholy one's name, but thought the Great Idjit might go further down the whacko rabbit hole if he discovered that his title (and his thunder) had been usurped by his lowly henchman. 😉


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06/06/2020 6:33 pm  

@stargazer.   Haha, do you mean Grumpus or Mr. Down Under?


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