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@triciact

Thanks for the heads up!  I couldn't make that link work --perhaps Variety deleted it or it just doesn't work -- but there are others out there still.  Here's a link to a Daily Beast article:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-and-apprentice-creator-mark-burnett-are-discussing-their-next-tv-show?ref=home

Like you wrote, Trump has denied it. 


   
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@lawrence

@jeanne-mayell

Sorry about that link. When I'm sitting in bed sometimes I use my kindle and (a) I can't type well on a screen based keyboard and (2) I can't seem to copy links very well either (yes I'm showing my age here lol).

Lawrence: correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it you who predicted something about T and the Ides of March?? Seems familiar to me. Also, someone who I listen to on YT said over a year ago that someone close to T would take him down (there would be many but in the end it would be someone who is "next" to him, Mulvaney would fit the bill)

Also, I woke up this morning and just FELT him leaving soon, I could be off but I just feel it will happen. I almost felt giddy.

and PS: I've been feeling way more in tune with things lately, a bit more psychic than usual. I then happened to listen to an astrologer who said that during this particular mercury retrograde and other astrological reasons everyone is feeling more psychic. It just so happens that Read the Future night couldn't be scheduled any better!


   
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Yes I laughed too - AND I told my husband that there is no way in Hell I would watch the apprentice with him again!!! I can't stand to see or him on TV ever now. ? 


   
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He keeps on believing his made up polls. He is not as popular as he thinks. I would like to see him (not visually see him. I hate to hear him talk also) and then they cancel the show for low ratings. Also please don’t come back to NY. Please please stay in your new residence. 


   
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Re Ides of March:  On October 1st I posted under this forum that I received the following message "Beware the Ides of March."  I was thinking about T. and the message popped into my head.   It looks like many of us are on the same psychic page re March.  And March couldn't come soon enough, as far as I'm concerned!

 


   
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Interesting op-ed by Andrew Sullivan in New York Magazine . Sullivan tends to the very conservative side, but since 2016 has been warning everyone about Dipshit Donnie.


   
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just want to say - I know everyone will hate me, but I'm in tears right now. I was just on a Facebook board -dozens of people -- dozens -- on a nonpolitical board, I might add, talking about the waste of time hearings. There is nothing illegal it's all hearsay - why are they wasting our time with this, that horrible woman Pelosi - this is every person and it's a board about television - they're all terrified those mean Socialist Democrats are going to destroy our freedoms. TERRIFIED. Trump has done more for this country in a couple of years than Obama did in 8. And believe me, they consider that a positive remark.  56 percent of people according to what I read think he will be re-elected.  I sat there with my jaw on the ground. People were actually asked what they would do if he shot someone, and the answer was, it depends on who he shot. Right now I'm so upset I don't know where to turn. I keep asking myself, how is this possible. But it is. 


   
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You are on the wrong website. Clearly not everyone thinks or feels this way - otherwise 2018 blue wave, and just last week Kentucky & Virginia elections would have been different. The Women’s March wouldn’t have happened- nor the whistleblower or the sky high ratings of Rachel Maddow’s Show.  But it is also obvious, that a larger group than I would like to admit are frogs in boiling water. When I hear them speak of the current political climate I feel like I am in Wonderland... everything is topsy turvy. I do not know how to convince others to really think through their positions...and the evil this man has perpetrated. I think truly it comes down to our culture’s isolation, focus on personal responsibility ( no one does EVERYTHING on their own), the idolatry of money, and lack of empathy. When you posed the question about shooting someone on 5th Ave. ... they said it depends on who? Yes, lack of empathy. I see a lot of scared people strutting with false bravado in a world moving too fast & looking to make it someone else’s fault & a strong man to come in and fix it. As if in the history of the world that had ever worked? I must say I get frustrated too- not sure how to  reach them. They too have free will & I really don’t know... But there are many people who do see the darkness & danger & they (we) are making some noise too! ❤️ Hang tough. 


   
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Facebook is a cesspool.  I left it about 18 months ago and never looked back.  It’s shocking to hear those opinions and comments you encountered, but I understand that is reality for the hard core Trump cultists.  It just boggles the mind.  Kicking Facebook to the curb is an option.


   
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@bluebelle and @Shawn  Thank you both so much. I think given everything that is going on now, it was just a shock to read those awful comments. And if I told you what board it was on you'd laugh yourselves sick. I need to be on FB for business reasons but I've cut way down. I get afraid that by hanging with people who think like I do, that I, not them, am in Wonderland.  I look forward to the November 11 readings. There are some very gifted people on this site. I know in the end it will all be well, but I hope to live to see it.


   
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Hi @ Suspira44

I don’t hate you for mentioning this. It is the reality of a divided nation right now. The conversations that were going on sound like they are from people who were already supporters of the orange menace. Non political board or not, they are touting right-wing talking points that I hear from Fox News-watching family members. Are these people that you personally know or are they just people/bots on a message board that post on a subject that interests you? What I am trying to say with this is, are these people whose opinions you value? It is disappointing that there are so many people that are expressing a willingness to let criminality go on in exchange for whatever it is that they think they are getting out of it, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is criminality and it is wrong. As I told a dear family member recently on my last trip to the US, this is no longer about politics, it is about morals and what is wrong and what is right. They can say that the hearings won’t change anything, but I remember when there were hearings about what Nixon and his people did and it very much did change people’s minds and opinions. Don’t be discouraged for believing in justice and not putting up with criminality. It will take time, but justice will be done in the end. Don’t lose hope, just take care of yourself and regain your strength for the next round. 


   
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@suspira44

I'm sorry you had to go through that.

I took a 9 month hiatus from FB. On my way out the door I cut my friend list in half (to under 100). I left every single group except for the 2 or 3 that are personal friend based or that focus on positive things. Nothing political and certainly if the group is not run by someone I know personally I don't need to be in it. I never had the FB app on my phone, but did have FB messenger. I deleted it (and have not put it back on my phone).

When I went back on, I told everyone I would NOT be engaging in political discussions on FB. I use it to keep in touch with old friends, and also with newer local ones for whom FB is the fastest way to share local info, events, etc. I am a big user of the SCROLL-BY. I don't comment on stuff I don't like or that is highly negative, I just scroll on by and look at more positive posts. I also told everyone that email is better than messenger because I check email often.

FB is a total cesspool. Half of those trolling you are probably in a bot farm in Russia. FB is mostly a forum for racism, misogyny and real fake news. It's also addictive (no joke). Limit how long you are on it each day - I limit it to 2 15 minute sessions - morning and night.

As for members of "The Base" - well, even if some of them are real, human, Americans, actual psycho-social research has shown you can't change their minds.

A few months back I was the subject of a racial verbal attack. When I shared it on NextDoor.com, I was shocked at how many people attacked me, the victim. This was serious enough that I did get the police involved (they were lovely about it).  So I shut off the ability for anyone to reply to my post, and I haven't been back on since. F*em.

Lastly, a strategy I used to use when needed: if the people flaming you are replying to your comment - DELETE it and then repost it. It will remove all their replies. Repeat as necessary.

 


   
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very sorry to read you were a victim of a racial verbal attack. It's awful. I actually did not respond to any of these posts. I happen to know the moderator - she's actually a very sweet woman, but it seems she has bought into a lot of this Democrats are awful stuff. And she let these posts continue, which surprised me.  I am taking a trip starting on Wednesday and will just have my phone - I won't be on FB!


   
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I do not value the opinion of anyone who is a Trump supporter. So the answer is - whoever they are, I don't value their opinions! That doesn't mean I haven't read some things that upset me - like that 56% think he will be re-elected.  And you know why that is - the Democrats have yet to come up with someone who can win. I support the Democrats, I'm one myself, but let's face it - either we have horrible candidates, and if we don't, the election is stolen. I don't care if Curly Howard is nominated but I think other people want to feel confident in the nominee.


   
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I don't care if Curly Howard is nominated...

Yeah, me neither.  At least Curly had a sense of humor.  And some humanity.     Oh,  and, also, a better hairdo, too.


   
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I see a lot of scared people strutting with false bravado in a world moving too fast & looking to make it someone else’s fault & a strong man to come in and fix it.

Amen to that, @Shawn.

@suspira44, I'm sorry that your peace was disturbed with that craziness.  I agree with you about the Democratic nominees, and am just waiting for things to play out and solidify.

I never had a FB account.  I did see the value in it, but always felt ambivalent.  Unfortunately these platforms give cowards the courage to be hateful.  Jeanne's site is the only one I've joined, and it took me over a year to sign up.  I probably drove Jeanne crazy with my "I just have one more question about joining" emails.

You know, when you think about how FB got started ... didn't Zuckershmucker originally create that platform in order to "rate" women?  

@suspira44, I was still half-asleep when I read your post, and I thought "who is Curly Howard?"  I'm old enough, so you'd think I'd know! ?  Had to look him up -- never knew Curly's last name. 

Rumor has it that there was an evil 4th stooge who escaped from the nuthouse and occupies the current WH.  I read it on FB.

 


   
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Facebook is a being used as a lie machine all over the world. They gaslight people in order to make them lose hope and give up.  Anyone can flood it with lies to make you feel overwhelmed that T has so many supporters. The Russians have spent millions doing just that.  I never get that on my fb page. But since 2015 I have blocked and unfollowed all but a small number of people I know I can trust and who I want to follow.


   
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I get afraid that by hanging with people who think like I do, that I, not them, am in Wonderland.  --@suspira44,

I am so glad you posted this sentiment.  Pathmakers, light workers, leaders, creative people, and heart warriors are all in wonderland. In a land of wonder where the light is.

You are in good company -- Martin Luther King, Barack Obama, Adam Schiff, AOC, Elizabeth Warren, Elijah Cummings, Harriet Tubman, Abe Lincoln, Rosa Parks, Benjamin Franklin, and a hundred million more are in wonderland with you.   

There is a proven positive psychology tool that people use to become happier and stronger - it is called Finding Your Choir.  If we spend our lives surrounding ourselves with voices that resonate with our true selves and support the best and brightest Self we can be, then we have a greater chance of  changing the world and living our best life.

I know you know all this because I've read your enlightened posts but your bad experience gives us a chance to remember where we get our strength. 


   
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Hi I just wanted to let you know that I never had a FB account. My husband has one because he's self employed (realtor) and he never lets it slip he's not a rethuglican because if he does he loses business. Funny he once said though that if he let it slip he was a GOP supporter he doesn't feel the independents or dems would drop him like the rethuglicans do. HMMM

Suspira: what state do you live in? Wondering what state most that are in that FB forum are from?

I always told my husband that not all republicans are racist but it seems all the racists tend to be rethuglican. (Sorry just how I feel)

and deetoo: yes it was originally created by the nerdy zuckerschmucker (lol) as a way to rate women on campus. Disgusting premise to begin with.

I have friends who are GOP supporters. My best friend is a dem but she's married to a GOP/trump supporter. Trust me it gets interesting and tense in that house if Politics is brought up. On top of it, she is not only a dem, she's a Kennedy (makes me think of Arnold Schwarsenegger and Maria Shriver lol) however, I don't think the "Terminator" would support the Orange nightmare.


   
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I'm so sorry you were the victim of an attack like that. One of the reasons I never joined Facebook. I don't like "herd mentality" in human beings.

Like deetoo said, this was the only forum I joined too. I have some YT folks I follow and comment with but I know they are safe spaces there too now because they eliminate the trolls, however this is the only forum I've ever joined in my life!


   
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