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11/07/2019 12:11 am  

@yofisofi

I wonder if it may be that if he claims Mar-a-Lago as his primary residence (a place too fine for him to begin with, but he turned it to trash as is his tawdry talent), the government can’t seize it when they come collecting his unpaid taxes. He doesn’t pay taxes, so he probably felt safe from his tax hike on NYC when he and Ryan passed a draconian tax bill. I don’t know if you can claim a club business as a residence, but he might do better to keep a place a little further from the shore considering all the damage he is doing to our beautiful planet.

Speaking if taxes, we haven’t seen the taxes the Republicans put on the rest of us, yet. We will really notice it in the next couple of years. They thought it best to wait for our tax jump to start after the next election but long after the tax breaks for the obscenely rich have already made our bill astronomical. 


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11/07/2019 10:55 am  

Matt Gaetz Donald Jr. and the Russians have tweeted out a name as the whistleblower. Fox News anchors were told NOT to mention the name unless Trump or one of his cronies says it first. The other news stations will not acknowledge the tweets. 


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11/07/2019 1:07 pm  

I’m sending light to those who are doing the right thing to protect the country and the rule of law - especially the whistle blowers, those who are testifying and the jurors in the Roger Stone trial (who I saw are at risk of being named by Alex Jones and his ilk according to the Daily Beast).

On another note, I was reading a book and suddenly had a mental picture of Steve Bannon and heard a jail door slamming shut. I got the feeling that something is going to come out about what he was up to during the election or his time in government that will put him in legal jeopardy - not today or tomorrow, but it’s coming. I heard earlier today that he is a witness for the prosecution in the Stone trial. Maybe it will have something to do with that?

 

 


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11/07/2019 4:36 pm  
  • Maybe this is a sign of things to come: 

On Wednesday night, as President Trump was speaking at a rally in Monroe, Louisiana, people started walking out.

Maybe the crowd had had enough of Trump’s ramblings?

I guess 2 hrs was enough or they only got paid for 2 hrs? No overtime

https://mobile.twitter.com/KellyO/status/1192274624832294912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1192274624832294912&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.frontpagelive.com%2F2019%2F11%2F07%2Fwatch-trump-bores-his-own-rally-crowd-who-started-walking-out-halfway%2F


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11/07/2019 6:42 pm  
Posted by: @baba

I’m sending light to those who are doing the right thing to protect the country and the rule of law - especially the whistle blowers, those who are testifying and the jurors in the Roger Stone trial (who I saw are at risk of being named by Alex Jones and his ilk according to the Daily Beast.

I want to second your thought and your actions and send light to all those heroes as well as the people working hard to flip the Senate and maintain the House.


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11/07/2019 8:42 pm  

 Lawyer for Ukraine whistleblower sends White House cease and desist letter to stop Trump's attacks

A lawyer for the Ukraine whistleblower, whose complaint document triggered the House impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump, has sent a letter to the White House warning the President to "cease and desist" attacking his client.
 
"I am writing out of deep concern that your client, the President of the United States, is engaging in rhetoric and activity that places my client, the Intelligence Community Whistleblower, and their family in physical danger," Andrew Bakaj wrote to White House counsel Pat Cipollone in a Wednesday letter obtained by CNN's Anderson Cooper.
 
"I am writing to respectfully request that you counsel your client on the legal and ethical peril in which he is placing himself should anyone be physically harmed as a result of his, or his surrogates', behavior," he said.
 
 
The letter is good. Will Trump listen, nope.
 

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11/07/2019 10:45 pm  

there are now more than 10,000 children in cages in America.  10,000 children who have been separated from their families. We may just have to go, en masse, to the concentration camps, and forcibly release them ourselves. If we allow this to continue, then i am afraid we, ourselves, are not worth saving. This cannot stand!


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11/08/2019 10:02 am  

Latest news from NYT today's Impeachment Inquiry update:

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What I don't understand is can someone explain how it is that not showing up or answering a subpoena doesn't land these folks in Jail? Why are dems not playing hardball?


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11/08/2019 10:04 am  

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That should be on the front page news every day!  Why are the dems not talking about that during the whole impeachment mess? 😕 


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11/08/2019 11:08 am  

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Part of the problem is that there is no Sergeant of Arms to arrest these cowards. Trump got rid of him. I heard this on CNN. Second, if you stick by t**** he will just pardon you, and the democrats know this. My belief is that all these cowards will pay the piper once Trump is gone. 


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11/08/2019 1:15 pm  

@lenor,

Not sure what CNN is reporting.  Did this just happen?   The Sergeant at Arms, Michael Stenger, is still actively listed under the government website:  https://www.senate.gov/reference/common/person/stenger_michael_c.htm

This is part of what it says on the U.S. Senate official site:

"The title is now “sergeant at arms and doorkeeper,” and the sergeant at arms now serves the Senate as its chief law enforcement officer, protocol officer, and executive officer.

Elected by the senators, each sergeant at arms serves from Congress to Congress until a successor is chosen. Since this is an elected position, the majority party in the Senate selects the sergeant at arms, but once elected, sergeants at arms serve all members of the Senate."


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11/08/2019 1:53 pm  

The justification the Dems are offering for NOT prosecuting subpoena violations is that they are adding each no-show or refusal to the list of acts of obstruction of justice by Trumpito. They are trying to avoid the optics of jailing people because they know it will further alienate "the base".


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11/08/2019 2:15 pm  

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Thanks for the info but my opinion is that doesn't make sense. It just gives them all more ammunition to keep not showing up for subpoenas and a lack of rule of law. Mango's base is in his court whether they jail folks or not. It's like a kid who you threaten to punish but you never do...the child becomes a nightmare.


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11/08/2019 2:35 pm  

@TriciaCT - I agree completely, I think they should throw them all in jail. It would fall to Pelosi to order that, though, and I don't think she would. As for the sargent-at-arms, while it is his duty, if the post is empty any Capitol Police can follow the orders of the Speaker, as far as I know.


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11/08/2019 4:49 pm  

If someone refused to honor a congressional subpoena the normal thing is to refer the violation to the Dept. of Justice, which means AG Barr would basically do nothing. The other option is to ask a judge to order the recipient of the subpoena to comply, and if he/she doesn't, the judge can find the person in contempt and throw them in jail until they decide to show up. But going to court takes time and the administration would fight it for purposes of delay. Hence Schiff's plan to deal with the no-shows as establishing additional counts of obstruction. It's the best he can do.


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11/08/2019 5:03 pm  

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My apologies, I checked and you are correct. But I did hear a guest on CNN talking about arresting the no shows and he said something to the effect about t**** doing away with the SAA.  Unless he said that T***** would like to get rid of him. In addition to the election and alienating the base, I do believe that they know he will just pardon them and undermine the justice.  I believe there was a prediction that all the bad actors will eventually be arrested. With Nixon, some of the people involved were sent to prison years later. I only listen to CNN andMSNBC and NPR.


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11/08/2019 5:04 pm  

It’s getting interesting. Remember Mulvaney little hissy fit where he admitted it was a quid pro quo and who cares it happens all the time. Well it’s just go hot form him. 

(CNN) - Two White House officials told lawmakers the "blatant" push for politically motivated investigations from President Donald Trump left "no ambiguity" what the Ukrainians needed to do to secure a highly sought meeting — and the effort was coordinated by acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, according to deposition transcripts released Friday.

 

The testimony of National Security Council Ukraine expert Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman and former White House Russia expert Fiona Hill provides new details on the discussions inside the White House ahead of the July 25 call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenksy, in which Trump asked the Ukrainians to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and Burisma, he Ukrainian natural gas company that hired Hunter Biden. The officials say they were told that effort was directed by Mulvaney, putting the Ukraine scandal squarely into the office of the President's top aide.

Vindman and Hill testified that US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland told Ukrainian officials in meetings on July 10 they would have to open an investigation to secure the White House meeting. Sondland told them he was acting at the direction of Mulvaney, who on Friday defied a congressional subpoena and did not appear for a deposition.

"Ambassador Sondland, in front of the Ukrainians, as I came in, was talking about how he had an agreement with Chief of Staff Mulvaney for a meeting with the Ukrainians if they were going to go forward with investigations," Hill testified.

Vindman said he was first aware of the hold on Ukraine aid by July 3, and later learned that it came from Mulvaney's office. He said that when the Ukrainians learned the aid had been held up, he they asked whether it was true and "what do we need to do?"

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/08/politics/transcripts-released-fiona-hill-alexander-vindman/index.html?ofs=fbia


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11/08/2019 6:29 pm  

The sargeant at arms can detain those in contempt of congress, but then any charges have to be filed by the DOJ. Barr is obviously not going to do anything and all that will accomplish at this point is to give the GOP more to go off of. Woth the entire justice department acting as the personal Trump police, the only real move they have is to go on as they are, keep forcing story changes by the GOP, and then file contempt charges once the DOJ is working properly again. 

On the bright side, Donald "They need to have public testimony" Trump is now screaming that that the have no business making it public so progress is being made. The truly scary part is CNN interviewed cultists, I mean DT supporters, yesterday and asked if Trump shot someone in the street would they still vote for him. The response was "well it depends why he shot them" 


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11/08/2019 6:32 pm  

@lenor, I generally listen to the same media outlets as you, but if they start playing any audio or videos of Twitler speaking, it gets turned off.   It's an assault on my senses.  I also read the Washington Post.  It's so hard to keep track of what's happening, because T's gotten away with so much.  He should have been thrown out two years ago.  I heard a Washington Post journalist mention how hard they work to get their stories correct, and how exhausting it all is.  

What astounds me is this allegiance so many of these clowns -- Mulvaney, Rudy, the Rs in Congress, and the like -- have to T.  I mean, their stupidity and arrogance blows my mind.  Twitler uses and abuses people.   So it's got to come down to $$$.  And T. will throw anyone under the bus -- probably even his own kids -- if he needs to save his own butt.  T. just said that he "barely knew" Sondland.  A few days ago the Ghouliani associate who was involved in the campaign to pressure Ukraine into aiding T's political campaign, Lev Parnas, decided to talk with congressional impeachment investigators after becoming angry that T. denied knowing him.  I'd heard that the WH/Congressional Rs are looking for a fall guy, and they're zeroing in on Mulvaney, Ghouliani or Sondland.

And SOMEBODY needs to explain to me what in the hell is up with Lindsay G.


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11/08/2019 7:03 pm  

@deetoo

Lindsay G. is up for reelection.  They said on the news that J. Bolton is hinting for immunity, and he 'has a story to tell'. I too can't listen to trump.  I know I've been gripy, but I'm just so worried about this whole thing. Sorry.


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