The discussion is drifting...
BUT I will add that my hubby used to have a colleague/friend, who was born here in the US to immigrant parents from Vietnam. He served honorably as an Army Ranger/Airborne, and is a combat veteran. He is only in his mid-thirties. Over the years he has become very anti-immigrant and MAGA hat wearing. I don't understand it.
Comedy break -- Randy Rainbow on Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-LTRwZb35A
An anecdote that sums up how scary religion can be in the wrong hands...
Trump can conspire with Russia to steal an election, create intense division in the country, dehumanize minorities, sleep with pornstars while his wife is home with a baby, hang around with pedophiles, cage and torture children, and thats fine with Evangelicals. The one thing he cant do? Say the word "goddamn." Evangelicals are now calling their representatives over Trump saying it twice during a rally. Even God has to be out there somewhere, head in hands saying "damn!"
This is an actual billboard put up by a Christian group. It was eventually taken down but put up again in Maryland.
I will never understand how anyone can think Trump is a religious savior. I can see antichrist, or the one supposed to bring about the end of days but savior? Seriously? I guess Jesus wasnt really diggin' the whole carpenter/generousity thing so when he came back he decided to upgrade to greedy real estate tycoon. Who needs purity? Let do porn stars! Poor? Hell no! Rich as hell now! I gave enough last time, lets just take on this trip to Earth. Water to wine? Sweet! Higher profit margins on the winery! Who needs feeding the hungry? Ill just put em to work for me and not pay em!
@lenor, has this billboard been put up recently in Maryland? I see that the date of the article is November 2018. It's really insane, but not surprising. 50 years from now people will read about this period of time and think that we'd lost our minds.
“That controversial electronic billboard urging St. Louis-area drivers to “Make the Gospel Great Again” may have been taken out of rotation from the spot it was first spotted near 170 — but it's still displaying its message in Maryland Heights.”
I should have paid attention to the whole article. I’m guessing it may still be in Maryland Heights since I didn’t find any articles saying it was taken down permanently! I am just appalled at this but not surprised.
The billboard was put up November 2018.
How can people be that delusional?!?!?!?! Don't they listen to him? This is a disturbing mental disorder!
I would like to know if anyone else feels this: The approval and polls numbers for Trump don't feel right to me. I feel like "they" are not only manipulating our elections, but that they manipulate the polls too in order to keep us intimidated and on edge. They don't want the majority to FEEL like the majority. I also wonder if this is true (what I'm sensing) that it will come out eventually before 2020 election?
@triciact, that could very well be. It wouldn't surprise me. Also, I've read that over the past 2 years, more registered Reps have left that Party. Now the remaining pool of Reps that are polled is a lot smaller and made up of his die-hard supporters, which might account for the consistently high polls among Reps. So it could really be a mixed bag.
I don't rely that much on polls anymore. I remember reading that when they analyzed why Blotus got elected, there were many people who were too embarrassed to admit that they intended to vote for him. In other words, they lied. So we can't take anything for granted.
The main factors in the repub favor are voter suppression and a sophisticated Cambridge analytica-style disinformation campaign targeting the persuadable voters in swing states. The second one is described in the film the great hack and is in play for 2020. The dems need to mount a counter offensive to both favors in order to win.
It also depends on how the poll questions are worded. Wording can favor a candidate. Also, many polls are done over land lines. Our younger generations do often have land lines.
This is true. Also, many people don't answer the phone if it's a number they don't recognize. So the polls are kind of meaningless. They target a specific group of people -- those with land lines and those who answer any phone call. That's not necessarily reflected of who will go to the voting booth.
And yes, the fact that the polls were consistently so far off in 2016 is troubling. Though who knows, it's possible the polls were correct and more Russian hacking of actual votes was done.
Im not sure how accurate that article and map were. I dont know the trends across the country but I am in Wisconsin and there is no way it is strongly democratic as the map states. Its purple at best. I live in a red Milwaukee suburb and his support here hasnt wavered, nor has it anywhere near me. Milwaukee is the majority of the blue votes statewide and Ive seen no change whatsoever since 2016. Ive just seen both sides retreating more heavily to their corners. We do have a Dem governor now, but every other position in state Govt is red majority.
Rachel Maddow: Trump underwater in...
- Wisconsin (by 10)
- North Carolina (by 9)
- Virginia (by 17)
- Utah (by 3)
- Pennsylvania (by 12)
- Texas (by 1)
- New Hampshire (by 26) (not a typo)
- Michigan (by 11)
- Iowa (by 4)
- Arizona (by 9)
Wait... Utah?
Your posts always, always give me hope. You've consistently been predicting his downfall. I feel it too, but I'm still so unnerved by the thought of another term. Yikes!