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Well, maybe it’s time to start calling trump a fascist.

 


   
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Putin's objective is to create doubt and chaos. He's going to play both sides. Yes, he'd prefer that Rumple be in office, since Rumple is so easy to play and manipulate. They'll get caught helping Bernie, Warren, Biden, whomever is the nominee. Or they'll make it appear that the nominee is there because of the help they received. That way the GOP and Faux will be able to claim to their base that the Russians are swinging the election, etc. We all know that they helped swing the last election, and we have little faith in the president. Naturally, he deserves some of that distrust all on his own. But if the next president is a Dem, they'll have tarnished them before they even cross the finish line-and given the competition plenty of ammunition to smear them in the process. Division and chaos, that is the objective. Make it hard to govern or for the people to believe in the government will suffice if they can't insert their own people into places of power. 


   
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Hi, I am new here, have been lurking for awhile and finally registered this evening. On my way to sleep the other night, not thinking about DT consciously, all of a sudden I saw him in my mind's eye, and it was the month of March, and he was in a tight enclosed space like very large clam shell plastic packaging that was olive drab green. Like he was a captive.


   
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@jeanne-mayell

I think the biggest problem for Bernie is his health issues.  The news that he had a heart attack and then the fact that he won't release his medical records have many (myself included) worried that Bernie may not make it through the 2020 election cycle.

 

 


   
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I have finally reached that point in my life where I don't go through my usual weighing of strengths and weaknesses of candidates.

If it is Bernie the Socialist, I will vote for him.

If it is Amy the dark horse, I will vote for her.

If it is Warren "Pocahontas," I will vote for her.

If it is Joe, I will vote for him.

If it is Bloomberg "Trump lite," I will vote for him.

If it is Pete, I will vote for him.

Any of these candidates can be at the top of the ticket, and I honestly don't care.  For those moderate and conservatives who worry about Sanders and Warren and their "liberal" policies, I say "I wouldn't worry about it.  If you are, remember that the conservative and moderate Democratic members of Congress will reign them in if they go too far.  I trust the Democrats more on controlling a President than I ever would a Republican."

If Bernie supporters and liberal fanatics are upset if Sanders or Warren don't get it, I will remind them that their policies have a much better chance under a Democratic president than they ever would Trump.

For those who object to Pete being homosexual, I would answer "at least I don't have to worry about Pete raping me or sexually assaulting me!"

Even Bloomberg knows how to temper his behavior much better than Trump.

Anyone who is Trump or a Trump supporter will get zero support from me.  For the first time in my life, I will vote straight down party lines.  It is up to us (Never Trumpers, moderate Republicans, Democrats, Independents, etc.) who actually care about human rights, common decency, and America to put aside our differences and make the Republicans and Trump understand that they cannot get away with cruelty or bullying the innocent and not face the consequences.  We will not be bullied, and we are sick and tired of being treated like dirt whilst Trump caters to the 35% of our country that are as racist and as bigoted as him.  We must send a message to them and the rest of the world that we will not take their mistreatment lying down.

And for those Republicans who half-heartedly support Trump?  You will not get my vote either.  You can "disapprove" of his actions till you are blue in the face, but a vote for you would mean that I turn a blind eye to everything that Trump has done to the detriment of our country.  

In short, I will vote for whoever is on the ticket because "sitting out" this election is the same as voting for Trump.


   
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@allyn

I feel the same way. Bottom line: none of the Dem candidates want to be King/Dictator, and thus our democracy will be safe in their hands. This is what's at stake in the 2020 presidential election.

 

 


   
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@allyn  Ditto. I will work for and vote for any democratic nominee. Any one of them. Even the most flawed are generally decent and moral people, and they're all sane. I just hope whoever gets the nomination doesn't blow it. 

 


   
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@deetoo, I hear you loud and clear. We cannot buy into the false narrative that one of our candidates can’t win. Any one of them can win hands down against trump. I hear that in in the community where I live and I just laugh. I continually encourage people to check the facts. I’m tired of being afraid. I’m all in for whoever our candidate is. We also need to be all in for those running down ballot. We will need a majority in the house, senate, governors to get anything done.

I remember well what happened 12 yrs ago! A small group of people brought our financial system to its knees and they got golden parachutes! So they can save their “Socialist” speech. 

 

 


   
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I agree that Trump thinks Bernie is most beatable, and that his campaign against Trump would polarize the US the most. Trump, however, has a brain that is solely reactive and instinctive, ie you speak.badly of him and he retaliates without ever thinking even minutes ahead of the current situation. Bernie blasted Trump a lot recently and for Trump to defend him after that is 100% out of character. The only way Trump would do something strategic(like boost Bernie for an easier path to victory) is if he was told to by his puppet master. There was a time where I really thought he was just a useful idiot being manipulated by Russia, but this move fully convinced me beyond any doubt that he is taking direct orders from the Kremlin

 


   
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1231264452097593345

It's getting worse quite quickly


   
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Any one of the Dems running now can win.

Any one of the Dems running now can lose.

VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!


   
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@mas1581  I completely agree.  I would add that the "Bernie is the most beatable" may just be psych ops that Russia has injected into our system through social media propaganda, which, as you've pointed out, trump is in on. Yesterday I was talking to my partner and we asked ourselves, are we really doomed if Bernie gets the nomination? Or is this Russian propaganda?  

David Plouffe, who worked on Obama's 2008 campaign and co-hosts Pod Save America, tweeted yesterday that there is no evidence that Bernie can't win the general election. I like to think of myself as pretty discerning, and I think many other people are as well, but psych ops are powerful because they can work on anyone. So, going forward, I am going to questions my every conclusion about this election even more that I would normally. Question the conventional wisdom. Can Bernie win the general?  Sure, why not? Would be be a good president? As Jeanne has pointed out, he's squeaky clean. He's moral. He's decent. Is he perfect? No one is, certainly not the degenerate sitting in the white house.

 


   
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Posted by: @deetoo

DO NOT WORRY.  DO NOT PANIC.  That will only cause confusion and weaken us.  Yes, be proactive and do what feels right to you (e.g. speak the truth, pray, send light energy, send donations, work for whichever candidate you support etc.), but let this thing play out. 

Thank you for this! We're in an emotionally turbulent mercury retrograde, so the fear that is churning, being stirred up by the media, the Russians, the failed impeachment is extra powerful right now. Don't listen to the lies that fear is spinning in your mind. We are here because we're interested in predicting the future, and most of those predictions show things turning around, and as Jeanne's prophecy states, "our democracy will take a beating but will survive." It is hard to not get pulled into the pain and fear while we're in the peak of this "beating" but have hope that it will not last. Change is coming. And "be the change you want to see"--like deetoo said, send out energy, thought, action, money, whatever you can do toward the outcome you want. While there is no guarantee that we'll get the exact candidate we want, we can and will save our democracy. Please take care of yourselves to stay healthy (mentally & physically) and take a break from the fear-mongering media if needed. 

 


   
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@mas1581 I wish I could agree with you about this video showing T's clear mental decline, but it just looks like he couldn’t remember a hard-to-remember name and just spurted out what he remembered. Given how his mind works, which is that he isn’t good with names, it doesn’t seem like a sign of definite impending decline to me. I’m not saying that he isn’t declining, he may be. I’m just saying that this video doesn’t show it to me.  My read on T is that decline would come if he felt truly cornered where his enablers turned against him. 

 


   
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I think that the Republican playbook against Bernie can be summed up as "capitalism versus socialism". While this will play pretty well with the top 20%, they were going to vote Republican regardless. The problem for Republicans is two fold. First, capitalism isn't working so well for many people. The gig economy without benefits is all they have to look forward to and it isn't all that appealing. The other problem the Republicans have is that the Cold War is a distant memory - "socialism" doesn't carry all of the same "godless communist" baggage that it used to. 

I still have faith that Trump will continue to spin more and more out of control and people are just getting tired of the same old act.

My two cents.

 


   
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It is disheartening to watch the Dems "eat each other" as I think Joy Behar put it. Although Warren sticking it to Bloomberg was awesome to see, as his buying of a podium was, to me, very unethical. Leapfrogging past the actual process. If he had anything good to contribute, it might have been tolerable. I came away with a bad taste in my mouth as the revelations about him were unsavory. 

 In general though, I feel they need to go after Trump, not each other. And talk about policy that will uplift our Democracy. Calling Bernie a "socialist' is doing the Republicans dirty work. When Mayor Pete said he was the only Demcrat on the stage, my heart sank. 

The message needs to be that they are united and will support the eventual nominee, whoever it might be, to remove and replace Trump. 

Also super tired of the media breaking down Bernie Sanders. He's the front runner and deserves positive press. I miss the days when news reporters were unbiased. Even though I agree with their bias most times , it still feels wrong for them to be so openly biased. What does Bernie have to do to get respect? The whole Bernie Bros. thing is unsettling, feels like a false equivalency to the Maga heads.


   
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@deetoo and in the run up to the 2016 election I recall the republicans were divided, ridiculing and tearing each other down and the man who won the nomination had received the most searing criticism of all from his colleagues.  Still once the nomination was decided they changed their tune and supported him.  While it would be nice to see more unity right now, it will come once the nominee is picked.  

 


   
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Posted by: @amyv

Hi, I am new here, have been lurking for awhile and finally registered this evening. On my way to sleep the other night, not thinking about DT consciously, all of a sudden I saw him in my mind's eye, and it was the month of March, and he was in a tight enclosed space like very large clam shell plastic packaging that was olive drab green. Like he was a captive.

Hi @amyv.  This is very similar to what I've seen and posted about:

https://www.jeannemayell.com/community/u-s-politics/situation-unraveling-for-trump/paged/128/#post-20047

 

 


   
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The Orange Nightmare is in India. Over 100,000 people showed up to a "rally" there at their stadium. They gave him a big warm welcome (YUK) He's there to sell arms or something I think. I also just feel he's there for hidden reasons too. He doesn't do these things unless there's something in it for him. He can stay in India! ? 

Additional Side note: everytime he is out of the country something damming comes out about him...hmmmmm


   
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@triciact

I'm surprised he is traveling overseas right now.  With the news of the coronavirus spread, anyone who comes in contact with him could be a potential carrier of the virus (Remember, many people who contract the coronavirus may have minimum or no symptoms.  Therefore, they do not know they are infected and can spread the disease).

On the other hand, if Trump could get sick for a bit, that wouldn't be too bad.  Not deathly ill or anything like that (I rather he drown in scandal or a blue wave in November).  But a few weeks of him being quaranteened and silenced in the White House would be like a vacation for the rest of us from the evil he inflicts.  No Trump rallying his supporters with threats and violence.  No Trump to use Twitter to shock the nation with insights into his lack of empathy and depths of cruelty.  No Trump for several glorious, peaceful weeks.

Again, I don't want his death or severe illness.  But I think it would be highly ironic if he caught the virus, came home, spread it to his followers, and yet still maintain that everything is "under control."

It will show karma at work, in any case.  And hopefully keep him away from the news and our lives while we recover a bit from his evil.

 


   
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