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05/18/2019 4:16 pm  
 

Why doesn’t Mueller resign from the DOJ? --deetoo

I threw a card asking the question, What will Mueller do? I got that he will testify and tell the truth. The cards say it will happen in August. 


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05/18/2019 6:30 pm  

I sense we only know a small fraction of the expansiveness of the crimes. I have felt overwhelmed the last few days..there seems to be so many tentacles to the corruption. I can easily find myself spiraling into despair since there appears to be yuck everywhere! The self righteousness from the right really depresses me. So dense and dark. 

I don’t understand why the Democratic house isn’t taking a hard line holding people in contempt. I get it that they want to exhaust all avenues prior to going to court, but can’t they take a hard line, hold them in contempt and then proceed through a court process?  

I am so hoping for a breakthrough..some kind of breakthrough that will move us forward through this terrible darkness.


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05/18/2019 7:17 pm  

I have felt overwhelmed too, and my sleep has been disturbed.  I knew it was going to be bad ... I just didn't believe it would be this bad.  You wouldn't believe how much chocolate I've been eating!    

I agree about the Dems in Congress.  They're still playing by the old rules.  The old rules don't apply any more.   


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05/18/2019 7:54 pm  

I can believe how much chocolate you have been eating, deetoo! ☺️ Me, too! 😋


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05/18/2019 8:12 pm  

Hi all, don't know if you heard, but a conservative R in Congress posted today that he read the Mueller Report and supports impeachment.  It's now hitting most of the news outlets, it's been on Twitter since around noon.  

Also, a leading D operative is now considering running against Nadler bc of his lack of action.  Nadler said Mueller wouldn't testify until June at the earliest.

For all of us who've been frustrated at Ds' inaction, I just heard another theory from a psychic that Ds aren't doing the contempt bc it's what D^T has been looking for as an excuse to declare martial law, lock up Ds, etc.   I hadn't considered that but I could see it with all the rhetoric we've heard this past week.  I was so angry about it last night I almost swore off political news.   (That lasted until this morning.)

Finally, it's the Full Moon/Blue Moon tonight. One of the astrologers I follow said this particular combination of planets would have ppl revealing secrets (particularly power-related secrets) and that folks would be doing what they really wanted to do.  Maybe this is the breaking point.


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05/18/2019 8:24 pm  

Cracks are starting to appear in in the republicans.

Republican congressman Justin Amash  on Twitter  today says Trump has “engaged in impeachable conduct “.  

Stated his principal conclusion after reading the redacted Mueller report is:

1. Attorney General Barr has deliberately misrepresented Mueller’s report.

2. President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct.

3. Partisanship has eroded our system of checks and balances.

4. Few members of Congress have read the report.

Justin Amash then outlines each conclusion then stated “ our system of checks and balances on each branches jealously guarding it powers and upholding its duties under our Constitution. When loyalty to a political party or to an individual trumps loyalty to the Constitution, the Rule of Law-the foundation of liberty-crumbles.                                                   America’s institutions depend on officials to uphold both the rules and spirit of our constitutional system even when to do so is personally inconvenient or yields a politically unfavorable outcome. Our Constitution is brilliant and awesome and deserves a government to match.

The full tweet thread really was worth reading.


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05/18/2019 8:29 pm  

Robin, thanks for posting the tweet I was referring to.  Washington Post, HuffPo and several outlets have stories on it too now.


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05/18/2019 8:32 pm  

It showed up in my Twitter news feed.


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05/18/2019 8:38 pm  

Yeah, it's been raging on Twitter all day.  Pretty much everyone I follow has retweeted it  multiple times.  I came in here expecting to find a discussion of it and was shocked not to see it here.  When I checked the news outlets an hour ago, all had it on the front page near the top, except for NBC. I'm just relieved he had the courage to say it.


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05/18/2019 9:11 pm  

I  was at a memorial service today, when I got home and checked all the notifications on Twitter I almost spit my coffee all over myself. I really didn’t expect a republican to do this so soon. 


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05/18/2019 9:16 pm  

Exactly.  And that long thread he posted ... about 10-12 tweets, was awesome.   I was so bummed out last night and this totally made my day.  I keep hoping this will be enough to give Ds the spine to push harder to get Mueller and his team's testimony.  It was beyond what I could've hoped for.   All the former Rs, all the Ds, Tribe, etc were praising him.  But you know the blowback is coming.  I wonder if he's prepared for Fox's Sunday blitz and the T tweetstorm we know is coming.


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05/18/2019 9:24 pm  

I hope he continues to speak up, especially within his own party.  I’m sure there will be so many attacking him. Really wish the dems will fight back harder on this administration.


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05/19/2019 12:38 am  

Thread of tweets supporting impeachment of DJT from Justin Amash:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1129831615952236546.html


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05/19/2019 2:06 am  

Perhaps there is  good reason for Dem leadership to NOT do something as of yet.  Maybe Pelosi felt that there were Republicans out there who had been upset but needed time to "defect" or at least speak out against Trump.  .  If it opposition comes from THEM (Republicans) first,  it has a chance to hold more validity with Republican voters. with being able to build a bridge with some joint members of congress, to have SOME ability to have a more united front across party lines when things go to H*ll and a band basket.

One can HOPE there is a good reason.


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05/19/2019 10:24 am  

I am as frustrated as anyone as to the lack of action from the Dems.  however, the House can impeach but the Senate has to remove and we all know Mitch will move heaven and earth to not remove the mango  moron.  I believe Mueller will testify this summer, hopefully sooner than later, and the whole house of cards will falldown.  I truely have faith in Mueller, I have  since i saw the first pic of him.  The  pic spoke to me of an honest and moral man. I believe he is deeply disturbed by what Barr did and he will not show loyalty to the administration when he testifies.  I believe the  administration suspects this and are relying on  Barr to make things happen their way.  I believe he has tried to persuade Mueller and then probably threatened  him.  Mueller is staying outwardly calm but inside he is ready to bring these jerks down. trum mightmake it t o 2020 but I believe if he does he will have a stagnent presidency. Nothing he does will stick.

 


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05/19/2019 11:56 am  

Impeachment is a final action in and of itself.  Everyone complains that the American people don't know what happened.  Impeachment is the only way to fully educate the people in a clear cut, comprehensive fashion.   It is a trial with witnesses and evidence and is overseen by Chief Justice Roberts.  It doesn't matter a bit if the Senate convicts because it has the ability to shift the tide of public opinion which matters for 2020.  I believe this is nothing but fear and it's the same fear that has had mixed results for the last 20 yrs.   Everyone is raving about Pelosi's skill.  I don't agree although I supported her for speaker.  I can name countless things she and Dem leadership has messed up as political arguments the last 20 yrs.  Esp in 2004 (expecting everyone to be so offended over Bush that Kerry would be a shoo in) and 2010 (when they dropped the ball on the R RedMap redistricting plan).   

You don't see Dems arguing they shouldn't pass substantive bills just because Mitch won't pass them in the Senate.   Either both are good for showing what we stand for (impeachment, rule of law, separation of powers and passing bills) or both are wastes of time.  

This is just plain fear in my view.  I think the Ds made much more progress when they were bold.  They've become timid post-Bill Clinton and it's led to many purple states in 2000 turning bright red now.  The times we've won the presidency is when we've been bold and inspiring. 


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05/19/2019 12:01 pm  

I agree that Mueller is an honest and moral man.  When I tune into him, I emotionally sense distress and anger.  Mueller will NOT remain silent.  I have no idea how specifically that might play out, other than through his testimony.  But I feel that in my bones.

I am exasperated by the Dems in Congress.  They need a better message by fighting tough and dirty.  The Dems are shrinking from doing certain things because it might make people mad at them.  They must be seen leading.  I also think that televised testimony and/or tapes will make a difference.  People don’t read that thoroughly these days – either lack of time, and/or short attention spans.  But hearing and seeing someone speak the truth can make people sit up and take notice.

I read something this morning that has stayed with me.  By acting out of our emotions (e.g., anger, pain, fear, etc.), we are feeding our life energy into whatever we are focused on.  Another way of saying it is, whatever we focus on, grows.  So acting out of these emotions might really have the opposite effect of what we are intending.  We want the current political situation to collapse, not give it more power.  To create the change we want, we need to move into our hearts, where we are able to access an open space for creation.

That rings true for me, and yet I have some ambivalence about it.  Easier said than done.   It feels incomplete – airy fairy, even.  I guess I'm not that evolved.  And I guess I am just too damn mad about what’s happening in our country.  What is wrong with anger being a motivating force?  As long as it’s used constructively.  I want to see some action.  What do we do?  Because there’s so much coming at us, it’s hard to keep up.  And it’s a series of horrors.  So what do we focus on first?  Does it begin with small changes, small successes?

I think of the movie, “Shawshank Redemption,” where Andy takes 19 years to tunnel his way to freedom – and in the end, exposes evidence of the corruption and murders at Shawshank prison to a local newspaper.  The antagonist ends up shooting himself as the police are closing in.  So, like Andy, do we chip away at it, until we expose the core, the ugly truth?   

I do believe that in time our country will change for the better.  But I’m a baby boomer senior, and I don’t want to have to wait 19 years (or 10 or even 5).  I’d like to be on this earth to see the positive transformation.  I may, I may not.  One more thing I have no control over.

My husband frequently says to me, “it will take the women to save this country.”  Certainly the female energy.  And female consciousness has been rising.  That’s why women are being savagely targeted now.  Do these Neanderthal clowns honestly think they can keep women down?  They’re living in a fool’s paradise.


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05/19/2019 12:05 pm  

MB,

Your post arrived around the same time I sent mine.  I totally agree with you.


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05/19/2019 12:05 pm  

Hi, all...

First post. Have always been intuitive and it seems to be progressing with age, but haven't been able to fine tune it but just wanted to share what I've been "feeling". Can't shake it.

I feel strongly that Dems have been threatened by Trump if they pursue impeachment. Not sure with what but lean toward something horrific that would affect the American people in a very negative way. I can't breathe. Literally struggle to catch my breath as if I've been put in a chokehold. Keep hearing, "I wouldn't if I were you, Nancy. Your choice". Then the image of the young woman of color standing peacefully but defiantly in the roadway, feet firmly planted as she's being rushed by police/soldiers in riot gear in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

They're waiting for us. Deliberately trying to send us over the edge so they can react.

Just thought I'd share.


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05/19/2019 12:14 pm  

Hi deetoo, interesting what you said about the energy.  I was just watching the late Wayne Dyer on the Hay House summit (free for another week or so) and he was talking about TV being an "energy system" and what we tune into or think about being an "energy system".   I am viewing this mess not so much as anger as standing up for truth, justice and fairness.   It's kind of like correcting a child ... you don't have to be mad at their misdeeds to stand up boldly and correct them.  That's how I view our voices pushing for correcting the balance in government -- we're correcting lies, not necessarily being angry.   I guess that's the way I view the court system (as imagined), as a calm, fair way to correct things.

I hear you -- I'm a younger boomer too.  I was a young lawyer during the Hill hearings and they made a mark on my psyche. 

It seems like every 30-40 yrs we must have a horrible thing happen to bring us together and get back on track. Civil war, WWI, WWII, the Depression.  I'm afraid this is one of those times too. 

Copper, I have thought that as well and it's probably true about the threats.  But I do feel they need to be bolder and get more information to the public.   We're facing a lot of obstacles to a free and fair election in 2020 and I don't see a way out of this that doesn't involve some really icky stuff.   I don't want to see us slip over the edge and the House is really our only source of power at the federal level now.


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