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Kamala Harris running for the Democratic Nomination in 2020 for President. What are your thoughts? I personally felt that her first video which she just released didn't seem as inspiring as it could, and I have seen her be more inspiring.


   
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Quick thought is that she has been on my mind a lot lately including last night when the super full moon awoke me and I got up and walked around.  I got an image of the moon that was ominous.

We need someone very tough and strong. She might be it.

I feel very good about her, but need time to watch her in action. I hardly know her. 


   
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Jeanne, I too, have had a strong impression of Kamala as someone who is steely and determined. Watching her in the Kavanaugh debacle she showed an iron resolve. I hope whoever defeats trump, knows how to play putin’s level of geopolitical chess and beat him at his own game while also helping to heal the country. Tall order, hoping someone can fill it.


   
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When Gillibrand tossed her hat into the race, I immediately thought - Nope! Next. But when Kamala entered, I thought YES!!! So I did a quick peek at Kamala's numbers - and they are very interesting! She has a 5 birth force - usually signifying progress - with an 8 destiny - which is power  and executive ability- with a nine heart - humanitarian leanings and service without expecting something in return. Her numbers leading up to 2020 are also very strong - an 8 essence  - which mirrors her destiny!!! So I also have very good feelings about her and her candidacy!!


   
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Hmm, I get what all of you are saying, but I think the person who isn't what they seem or doesn't do enough to change the USA for the better might be Kamala. However, Kamala might lead to a more Progressive Democrat by 2024, if she gets the nomination this time.


   
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Numerologist, what about Gillibrand do you find disagreeable? I've always admired her for her humility and intellectual character. She's also very popular among her constituents (even more so than Warren and Klobuchar). But if I'm falling for a facade, then I'm interested in learning more.


   
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She’s not that popular among NYC ers bc she used to be way more conservative and had anA+ NRA rating. She is also targeted for her treatment of al franken. NY ers think she’s an opportunist - I recently moved from Brooklyn to St. Paul where Klobachar is extremely popular, but I still listen to wnyc- and Gillibrand was recently on Brian lehrer where she did not get a ton of support, some from 30-45 yr old working moms, but her past is problematic for her and people don’t trust her. 


   
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I think it's important to take a step back and examine each and every candidates policy proposals and past record - and not get blinded by any charm or charisma they may have. I get a good feeling about Kamala, but like Jeanne I hardly know her - and the liberal media on Youtube aren't fans of hers. That said  we all need to be extremely careful who we support - it has to be someone with the right values, and record. I personally favor Elizabeth Warren even if her moment has passed. 


   
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I would love to have Gillibrand as my Senator verses the current two  men who represent my state of Texas (they certainly don't represent me!) But I also was upset about Gillibrand's treatment of Al Frankin last year, especially when we later learned  Frankin was  targeted and set-up by a group who wanted him to resign because he was going after Jeff Sessions. 

I do like Kamala's energy, but its too early to pick a candidate. I will be watching her though.


   
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I wonder if Sen. Sherrod Brown from Ohio is the grey haired man many have "seen" running as president.  He just said he and his wife were thinking about it. He was on Rachael Madow tonight and speaking very well about the Government shutdown.


   
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As much as I admire Elizabeth Warren, like Natalie, I think her moment has passed.  Warren can, however, continue to do much good, but I don't see her as president (or vp).  Throughout the past few months, I keep seeing Kamala Harris coupled with Beto O'Rourke.   And I keep sensing he's the vp candidate.  I had a dream a couple of weeks ago in which I saw a strong, no-nonsense woman connected with Beto who was brusquely orchestrating his candidacy behind the scenes.  At one point, someone handed her an oversized cowboy hat which she summarily refused--it was as though she didn't want the cowboy image associated with him, or maybe the hat represented a large Texan $$$ donor that she wanted nothing to do with...A couple days later, when I saw a photo of Beto and his wife, she was undeniably the woman I'd seen in the dream.  

Numerologist:  Thanks for sharing Kamala Harris' numbers.  I'm happy to hear--and I'm not not surprised--they are so strong and positive.  Not all that long ago, I had opportunities to see Harris at casual parent-student events when her step-daughter attended the same school as my grandkids and when her step-daughter played on sports teams coached by one of my son-in-laws.  I always found Harris to be warm and genuine, with an air of polished but not off-putting professionalism.  I think someone else in this Forum (can't seem to find just who) said they'd love to see Harris in a debate with Trump, and I so second this thought!  And Lauri H, given what I know and what I sense at this moment in time, I think Harris is very capable of "play(ing) Putin’s level of geopolitical chess and beat(ing) him at his own game while also helping to heal the country."

Being a woman and being mixed-race are definite hurdles.  And Harris is not without a history of controversy.  But like this recent L.A. Times article concludes, "If I were running against her for the Democratic nomination, the biggest mistake would be to underestimate her.” Harris, like Pelosi, Feinstein, and Newsom (CA's new governor), were tested and shaped by San Francisco's hard-knock, mud-slinging politics.  Even elements of controversy ultimately reveal Harris to be a powerful and informed and intelligent and principled force to be reckoned with.  I'm also adding a link re Harris and her husband (m. 2014), a well regarded attorney here in L.A.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-kamala-harris-san-francisco-20190121-story.html

https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/kamala-harris-husband-douglas-emhoff-married/


   
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DcD2510's point that Harris might be "a candidate who doesn't do enough to change the USA for the better" resonates with me on a certain level. I have no doubt about the integrity of Harris's character or her commitment to progressive policy, and was endeared myself by an essay she published in the New York Times about how her mother's diagnosis of cancer demonstrated to her the need for a Medicare-for-all program. But I just can't shake my feeling that Harris, along with most of the other Democratic contenders for 2020, wouldn't be able to resist the inertia of corporatocracy, neoliberal economics, and hawkish foreign policy that ensnared Obama when he took office. Sanders and Warren seem somewhat capable of resisting those entrenched institutional and systemic forces, but as others have noted, their moments have passed.

Overall, I think 2020 is going to be another "weird" election, while 2024 will give us the progressive champion we've all been waiting for. We could have a scenario next year where the Democrats take 42% of the popular vote, the GOP takes 40%, an independent Ross Perot-like candidate captures 13%, and third parties take the remaining 5%. Because of the quirks of the Electoral College, the GOP could hold onto the White House; this would square with Jeanne's vision of Trump winning in 2020 but resigning because of a new Democratic majority in the Senate. Several remote viewings recently posted under "RV Nov 9" also seem to point to a split outcome, while the prospect of a major financial crisis in 2020 hints at why alternative candidates would be so appealing for voters who are already disillusioned.


   
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DcD2510's point that Harris might be "a candidate who doesn't do enough to change the USA for the better" resonates with me on a certain level. I have no doubt about the integrity of Harris's character or her commitment to progressive policy, and was endeared myself by an essay she published in the New York Times about how her mother's diagnosis of cancer demonstrated to her the need for a Medicare-for-all program. But I just can't shake my feeling that Harris, along with most of the other Democratic contenders for 2020, wouldn't be able to resist the inertia of corporatocracy, neoliberal economics, and hawkish foreign policy that ensnared Obama when he took office. Sanders and Warren seem somewhat capable of resisting those entrenched institutional and systemic forces, but as others have noted, their moments have passed.

Overall, I think 2020 is going to be another "weird" election, while 2024 will give us the progressive champion we've all been waiting for. We could have a scenario next year where the Democrats take 42% of the popular vote, the GOP takes 40%, an independent Ross Perot-like candidate captures 13%, and third parties take the remaining 5%. Because of the quirks of the Electoral College, the GOP could hold onto the White House; this would square with Jeanne's vision of Trump winning in 2020 but resigning because of a new Democratic majority in the Senate. Several remote viewings recently posted under "RV Nov 9" also seem to point to a split outcome, while the prospect of a major financial crisis in 2020 hints at why alternative candidates would be so appealing for voters who are already disillusioned.

I personally don't think their time has passed. They seem more youthful than some of the people who might run. Also, Kamala's issue is she can appear more Progressive than she is. I think that no offence, but Tulsi won't get very far, it's Kamala though that we have to watch, but she needs to be kept in check.


   
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Kamala Harris was wonderful  on Rachael Madow tonight.  I felt calm and so attuned to her while she spoke.  


   
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OK, time for a former New Yorker and current Californian to weigh in.

Yes, Kamala Harris has changed her stance on many things related to her time as a prosecutor and attorney general for the state of CA. As she has pointed out, her duty was to serve the people of the state, and many times she had to prosecute cases that she did not personally agree with.

She's a smart cookie and tough as nails. I think she'd make a great president, but I doubt she could win. And when I remember the visions I have had about inauguration day 2021, I see a woman with dark hair on the podium, but she is white, not a person of color, and the crowd is not happy.


   
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Numerologist: I have a question about the number of a POTUS... It was revealed to me that those who are elected POTUS tend to have the total number of 9 as their number when either adding it up as example: President Trump or Donald Trump = 9.  I did for another example President Warren = 9.  The only candidates on the Dem side that come up with a 9 are either Biden or Warren.  Am I doing that right and what do you make of it?


   
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TriciaCT - No -I've never heard of the '9' president thing. 

When you do a person's chart - you use the full name at birth as that's the vibration of their destiny - who they are to become, so adding the word 'president' in front of it doesn't automatically make them 'presidential'. But I have found that many leaders have an 11/2 some where in their chart -and it could also be in their birth date  - Obama, Nancy Pelosi, McCain, Jeff Sessions, Paul Ryan -  all have an 11/2 prominent in their charts. Some use it for the good of society - like Pelosi and Obama, and others like Jeff Sessions and Paul Ryan used it ONLY to enrich themselves and their ilk, thus the Universe abruptly ended their 'leadership'. (Hitler and Mussolini both had an 11/2 in their charts as well) 11/2's are spiritual messengers and if used correctly, the Universe rewards them with powerful help. But if they only use it for their own benefit, they are crushed. 


   
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I’m very impressed with Kamala Harris. I also find it implausible that trump would still be around in 2020. Is this to mean Mueller finds nothing to turn the masses against him, or does it mean the Republicans in Senate won’t have the balls to impeach?

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It doesn't seem likely that he would be in a position to run in 2020, no.

From looking at his astrological Solar Return for 2019, it looks like he might slink away instead of receiving punishment. A number of tarot readers I watch also have said that he appears to resign. I recall someone saying he got a vision of McConnell going to Trump to tell him that they (the Dems) had more than enough to impeach him, and he recommended Trump to resign immediately.

Somehow, Pence isn't going to be president either, but I don't know why.

IF it were to happen that Pence is pulled out somehow (because of the investigation? he was part of the transition, so he knows what was happening BTS), AND Trump resigned - suddenly Pelosi would become president.

I think the Republican's heads would explode!


   
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It doesn't seem likely that he would be in a position to run in 2020, no.

From looking at his astrological Solar Return for 2019, it looks like he might slink away instead of receiving punishment. A number of tarot readers I watch also have said that he appears to resign. I recall someone saying he got a vision of McConnell going to Trump to tell him that they (the Dems) had more than enough to impeach him, and he recommended Trump to resign immediately.

Somehow, Pence isn't going to be president either, but I don't know why.

IF it were to happen that Pence is pulled out somehow (because of the investigation? he was part of the transition, so he knows what was happening BTS), AND Trump resigned - suddenly Pelosi would become president.

I think the Republican's heads would explode!

I think Pelosi could be the brown haired Woman everyone keeps talking about. She could run for President if she gets there. Republicans might enable her to succeed Trump/Pence, and then she will go to an election, by this time I think people will be looking for someone stable still, Democrats will let her have the primary, and then she might win the general. Progressives will have mixed emotions, and conservatives will be upset. The corporate class will be happy still. 2024 is when someone new will come, probably Stacey Abrams, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Ilham Omar, etc.


   
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