Epstein Case - With Barr Un-recused, How will this case play out?  

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10/08/2019 2:38 pm  

The news states that he hung himself, but the entire thing smells bad.  I believe there was more to it.  He was removed from suicide watch on July 29 and returned to a segregated area of the prison with extra security.

I'd read that most of Epstein's initial wealth came from retail billionaire Leslie Wexner.  Wexner gave Epstein complete authority to manage his personal fortune for more than a decade. That alone enabled Epstein to become hugely wealthy himself and gave him the credibility to draw business from other corporate executives.  I'd read that Wexner eventually accused Epstein of misappropriation of funds.  So apparently Epstein's business acumen was more myth than fact.  He was just brilliant at selling himself.  Who does that sound like?  I also read that Epstein claimed to have introduced Melania to Blotus.

I feel so sorry for Epstein's victims.  They deserve justice.  I did hear there are civil suits that are still moving forward.  Lots of discovery pending.  Also, there is still that one female associate, among others, who recruited these young girls for Epstein.  It's not over.


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10/08/2019 3:15 pm  

Regarding Epstein's massive accumulation of wealth, I've read/heard from various sources that one of his revenue streams came through his ongoing blackmailing of fat cats, politicians, and entertainers who attened his parties, or who used his sex slaves and/or his trafficking services.  It's believed Epstein had hidden recording devices in every room of every property.  Also, today, a psychic on YouTube suggested the primary reason Epstein was murdered was to keep Melania's dirty connection to him a secret.  Note that Barr immediately inserted himself into the investigation process to take control of the storyline and, presumably, the outcome. Seriously, how often does the national AG get personally involved in a prison suicide/murder?    


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10/08/2019 6:06 pm  

@Jeanne - did you notice that this previous sex slave had at one time said Trump was a good friend of Epstien and then changed her story with her case reopening? 

The whole thing smells really fishy. 


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10/08/2019 6:07 pm  

This whole thing reeks of a murder to cover up a criminal ring. As to who ordered it, Im thinking Barr injecting himself into the situation limits the possibilities. I see this being found out and Barr trying to indirectly blame the Clintons, as they are the easiest target. Humperdoo in the WH has the most to gain from this because it not only eliminates a possible weakness, but also give his base fodder against their main target-Hillary. The truth will never come out on this one though. 


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10/08/2019 6:34 pm  

His death isn't natural that's for sure. Its now too close to naming royalty, president's and prime ministers.  But I think they've under-estimated Epstein.  Even when he's not here all the stuff will still come out.

What's fishy to me is when they searched his house they only found a passport, some jewellery and money in a safe. Not alot for a billionaire. My senses are saying people are searching for the blackmail stuff, all the photographs, recordings etc. And they can't find it.  I keep going back to the safe, there's something wrong with it. It doesn't make sense. 

This guy was a super control freak, he knew the people he was dealing with, the blackmail stuff was protection. There's stuff dotted around everywhere.  When I ask 'how much.'  Triple amounts across the world. He may be off the radar, but it won't stop names coming out. 

 


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11/08/2019 11:26 am  

@perriwinkle10

I did notice that she went out of her way to clear Trump of any involvement.  


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11/08/2019 11:45 am  

I believe he was silenced.  This is bigger than Moron and his crew this goes internationl.  The billionaires he entertained were from all over the world including the Saudis and the Russians.  I believe Moron and his crew were small fish in a very large pond.  Not that they aren't relieved that he is gone, I'm sure he had tapes and info on Moron.. Blotus might think he is the most powerful man on earth but he isn't by a long shot.


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11/08/2019 11:51 am  

Someone here suggested he ran a money laundering service for those billionaires rather than an investment service or maybe both.  When he went into business for himself years ago, he would only take clients with 500 million or more. So was he just a super financial whiz kid who was also a pedophile?


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11/08/2019 12:22 pm  

@yogagirl, I immediately thought "international" when I first heard about it.  This thing is really big.

Regarding implicating the Clintons:  Blotus is already paving the way for Barr to indirectly blame them.  He's already tweeted about the Clinton connection.  His troll, KellyCon, is defending the tweet.  Now all of the other trolls will push that message to the general public.

 

 


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11/08/2019 12:54 pm  

@deetoo I saw that.  Some Dems have already called him out.  One called his remarks dangerous.  He is unhinged and will end up getting someone killed.  It’s the basic Putin strategy accuse your enemies of doing what your doing.


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11/08/2019 1:00 pm  

No chance Clintons had him killed. It doesnt make sense. If they did, then we would have to believe they have had many people killed along the way. If they were that experienced in killing to cover stuff up, there wouldnt have been a botched attempt 2 weeks ago. Im also hearing rumblings that the death was faked and he was taken somewhere internationally to protect those he couldve implicated. Seems far fetched, but with as far as his reach went, nothing would really surprise me here. 

Barr jumping in the mix leads me to believe that Trump thinks he is somehow involved. Hes obviously not smart enough to pull this off at his direction, so I have no choice but to think that Russia or Saudi Arabia is involved as well and Trump is aware of what happened.


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11/08/2019 2:57 pm  

It is no wonder IQ45 is using the Clinton murder conspiracies to push the blame away from his administration. Those conspiracies were sent out by bots created by the Russians. Many people believed them. It was the Muller investigation that brought that to light. There are no murders tied to the Clintons. 


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12/08/2019 10:51 am  

I just read an interesting item on another discussion site (grainsalt)  The theory is that Moron and his minions are upset about this.  they were going to use Epstein to discredit the Dems re: Clintons but the bigger dark powers (think international) are sending moron a message.  Mainly shut up or you're next!  Really Moron has made such a mess of things that everyone is mad at him.  Excet maybe that idiot in North Korea.  


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13/08/2019 12:07 pm  

I just happened to look back on a meditation that I did on the 25th of July about Epstein and where the case was going and had written down the following:

What happens with the Epst. case, does he expose others? It comes out but not directly through him. He is in danger. Many are afraid of him and his desperation. He ends his journey incarcerated.

I think that the fallout from this case is just beginning and that we don’t currently know how much we don’t know. I think what comes out will make big waves and that even if some try to cover it up, the truth will come out. 


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14/08/2019 9:44 am  

I just read an a new blip from Barr.  He is going after the other "gulity parties" in the child porno case of Eptsteins.  This to me reads the women who helped procure the girls.  GOd help us he won't go after the men who used these poor kids.  The FBI spent the day at Epsteins island yesterday and were going through everything. I'm not saying these women shouldn't be prosacuted but I want to see these men humiliated for being the pediphiles that they are.


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14/08/2019 8:44 pm  

Hi Yogagirl, I don't think it's a good thing that they immediately raided Epstein's island.   This means Barr has access to the evidence and it may disappear for certain folks we'd like see brought down.  I'm certain that there's evidence of bad behavior by important ppl in both political parties.   But I wouldn't be even slightly surprised if some of the evidence disappears re important Republicans or others allied with T.


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14/08/2019 10:00 pm  

@mb I think it depends on who has 5he evidence.  If NY has it in state custody it could be safe.  I found it interesting that according to a news item, Epstein’s lawyers are hiring criminal attorneys to represent them.  That’s a very interesting move imo.


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14/08/2019 10:53 pm  

The raid I was referring to was FBI (federal).  Although Wray is the director of the FBI, the DOJ (Barr), as the prosecutor, has access to the evidence.  Not trying to get into a big legal debate here.  

After practicing law for many years, I have repeatedly told ppl not to get their hopes up about different things in this whole process, many of which have happened as I said.  That's not because I 'm a great predictor, but because I understand just how underhanded lawyers can be, particularly corrupt lawyers like Barr. 

I said the day Barr was confirmed that he was going to screw the Mueller investigation and kill many of the investigations -- which has been proven now.   I just think ppl who don't deal with lawyers day in and day out can tend to underestimate how underhanded and corrupt the bad ones are and Barr is one of the worst I've ever seen.   That guy is flat out evil and I put nothing past him.  If it's under his power, he will try to screw it up. 


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15/08/2019 11:13 am  

@mb I follow what you're saying and am glad for the expertise.  I agree 100% on Barr.  He is one sick puppy.  His loyalty to the Mango Moron is just plain strange.  unless he is being paid big time which I would not discount.  I can't believe anyone can atruly believe the "for the good of the Presidency and the good of the Country" line.  It just doesn't ring true.  But then he did break his teeth on the Iran-Contra deal so I guess his mind has to be screwed differently than the rest of us.

What do you make of Epsteins lawyers hiring criminal lawyers to represent them?  Can his attorneys be prosecuted ?  I didn't think so because of confidentuality laws.  Just trying to understand all the mess we are going to be reading about until this becomes yesterdays news! 


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15/08/2019 11:33 am  

I don’t know if you guys no this but a couple of days ago there was news that..

  • Before the first news reports surfaced that Jeffrey Epstein had been found unresponsive in his jail cell, a post about his death mysteriously appeared on the online message board 4chan.

Less than an hour before the first news reports surfaced that Jeffrey Epstein had been found unresponsive in his jail cell, a post about his death mysteriously appeared on a far-right message board.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/13/4chan-user-posted-about-jeffrey-epsteins-death-before-it-was-public.html


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