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06/29/2020 10:05 pm  

2020 is a bad year due to COVID-19. I see that things are changing for the better next year. What changes can we expect? We know that Trump will be leaving and Biden will be the next president.


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06/30/2020 11:59 am  

I'm a born pessimist, so I don't see much improvement.

I'm one of the people who sees a lot of chaos around the election and that A Clodwork Orange will refuse to leave voluntarily. I see COVID being with us til 2022 at the earliest, I do not see that a safe, effective vaccine will be available. I see MORE domestic strife, more terrorist attacks by the white supremacist minority. I see worldwide chaos on the increase too, as capitalism goes into its death throes while the climate really goes haywire. We've passed so many tipping points...

My visions for the next inauguration are quite dark, not hopeful and are all over this site, but to summarize, I see a swearing in taking place in a dark, woody room in DC. Pelosi is there but so is Turtleman. Pelosi looks unhappy. I have also seen a dark haired woman as being the one sworn in, but I see people crying and feeling betrayed.

I so hope I'm wrong.

You can look at the Predictions on the site for 2021 - there's lots on there for 2021.

And I wonder - @jeanne-mayell - time for another Read the Future Night - to focus on 2021?


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07/01/2020 10:00 pm  

@laura-f

I have seen Biden and Harris elected. But --- I once saw Harris as President, which was puzzling to me. (I'm not that great on the timing of what I see in visions.) 

If Biden does not finish his first term, then Harris would be sworn in without the big January inauguration. Gerald Ford was sworn in in the East Room of the White House after Nixon resigned. Lyndon Johnson on the airplane returning to D.C.

Your vision makes a lot of sense in such a case. And it would also be extremely sad if the worst were happen to Joe Biden or if he had to resign for health reasons.


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07/02/2020 11:28 am  

@bobbie39 I remembered in the past read the future nights that I have seen the White House painted in pink by 2025. I think what you are seeing fits the prediction.


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07/02/2020 1:38 pm  
Posted by: @laura-f

And I wonder - @jeanne-mayell - time for another Read the Future Night - to focus on 2021?

Thinking of a date in September for another read the future night. 


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07/02/2020 1:45 pm  
Posted by: @enkasongwriter

@bobbie39 I remembered in the past read the future nights that I have seen the White House painted in pink by 2025. I think what you are seeing fits the prediction.

@enkasongwriter, here are predictions in the future that involve the word "pink" in order of appearance, with the Siobhan prediction the one that stands out:

  • Lots of happy Democrats. I see Joe Biden at a picnic. Pink short sleeve shirt, plaid shorts, smiling. (Donna). Predicted before 2018 for 2020.
  • The color of the executive branch in the U.S. is pink! (Siobhan) Made 6.6.18 for Inauguration 2021.
  • Women in pink hats cheering. (Baba). Made 6.6.19 for 2021.
  • I see a big pink and white 3-tiered birthday cake. (Sharon) Made 6.6.19 for 2021.

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07/02/2020 3:01 pm  

@laura-f

I have no doubt that your fears regarding Trump refusing to leave is justified, but I think everyone is forgetting one very important thing:

The protests and riots resulting from the George Floyd murder.

The reason I bring it up is this-the Republicans have a bunch of conspiracy believing, gun toting fanatics in their ranks.  For many years, this group has called the shots.  They march around and carry their AK-47 rifles while whining about how "oppressed" they are.  They use intimidation and the threat of violence as their weapon (as was clearly demonstrated when those Michigan protestors marched around the governor's building while Trump gleefully tweeted on how the Michigan governor should "negotiate" with them.)

But then Floyd was killed.  Millions of people took to the streets to protest.  And while most were peaceful, a small group of them, for whatever reason, resorted to violence and vandalism.

Now, please understand that I do not advocate for violence or vandalism.  However, one positive thing has come out of it.

Right now, the Republicans, from the borderline moderate who tolerates Trump but can't stand him personally to the fanatic NRA anti-government member are SCARED!  They are terrified.  Believe me, I know this because I live in a red state and I hear what many of them are saying (and more of what they aren't admitting).  Many of them speak of the protesters as "thugs" and "criminals," much like Trump is.  HOWEVER, there is not much talk about how they (the Republicans) will take it to the streets to protest the election results.

Why?  Because the riots have shown the Republicans the truth of their position.  They has always known that Democrats outnumber them in this country (and that number has grown bigger with each year that Trump has been President).  But before the riots, many Republicans believed that, if Trump won, Democrats would yell about it but accept the results.

Not anymore.  Now the Republicans in my area are scared as to what will occur if Trump does win.  They fear that the protestors who marched for George Floyd will take to the streets and riot. 

Many Republicans fear Trump, and they will go along with anything that he does so long as they get something in return, but many are drawing the line on taking to the streets and fighting for him if he wins (aka-cheats) and the rest of the country won't accept the results.

In short, even if Trump refuses to concede defeat, you can expect that establishment Republicans will do everything possible to balk him and, if necessary, kick him out.  The tactic that Trump used in 2016 (having his supporters "patrol" voting booths with their firearms) will not work this time.  If anything, they are afraid of "evil liberals" waiting to shoot them from the rooftops (I am not kidding, one person actually believes that here.)  But they are no longer as determined to fight as they were before.  They are truly afraid.  Many of them believe that if Biden wins and they protest it, they will be met with corresponding force from the Democrats.

So as bad as the riots that followed Floyd's death was, it did serve a purpose.  Republicans now believe (whether rightly or wrongly) that Democrats are now a violent force barely held in check because they are waiting for the results of the 2020 election.  Many of them foresee mass uprisings from Democrats that will result in bloodshed if Trump somehow wins, and many no longer wish for this to occur, because now they know (1) they are severely outnumbered, because only a fraction of the protestors participated in the rioting and vandalism, and yet that number is still bigger than the group of Republicans willing to use violence to further their cause and (2) Trump, even at the best of times, is not a leader to inspire love and devotion, and many Republicans struggle every day to justify a reason as to why they stick with him.

There will be violence and protests regardless of who wins, but now many Republicans fear that a Trump win will result in more chaos and violence than a Biden win would, and some are planning to vote for "the lesser of two evils." 

I think the real question here is whether Trump will make it to the election.  Everyone keeps making a big deal about Biden and his age, but Trump is the one engaging in rallies without wearing a facemask.  If he gets Covid 19, his chances of dying are greater than Biden's (due to being overweight, obvious mental health problems, SADS [Small and Abnormal Dick Syndrome], etc.).

Another possibility is if the Republicans in charge (McConnell, McCarthy, Graham, etc.) will make Trump leave once they stop lying to themselves and realize that if Get Rid of Trump enthusiasm is still high on November 3, then every single Republican on the ballot may be kicked out and thus giving Democrats a majority in the House and the Senate, much like the situation that occurred to the Republican party in California a few years ago, which they have yet to recover from.

I will tell you this (based on my experience as a lawyer and dealing with district attorneys.)  If the Supreme Court does rule against Trump on the tax case, then that is the best chance.  Because if the DA in New York gets access to the tax records, he will call a grand jury and they will have a session where they will hear the evidence.  After the grand jury hearing, indictments and arrest warrants will be issued.

And based on the average time it takes for a DA to receive and review the evidence (as well as call a Grand Jury), then we can expect indictments around the month of October.

Yep, you read that right.  October.  As close to election day as the DA can get.

Remember when that letter was released from the FBI about how they planned to reopen the investigation on Hillary a few days before the election?  Basically the same principal applies.  Even if the DA doesn't charge Trump, he can charge other people close to Trump, or even Trump's family.  And the possibility of another four years of investigations and charges will be enough to drive Republicans voters from the polls and Independents to cast their ballots for Biden.  Basically, the DA in New York, if he wins, will use the Republicans' dirty tricks against them.

The Republican insiders know this.  So if the Supreme Court rules against Trump, you can expect them to start to quietly work behind the scenes to convince Trump to step out gracefully before the election so they can minimize the damage.  These Republicans believe that if Trump steps down prior to the election, then many Democrats won't show up to vote because their goal is to drive Trump out.  The endangered Republicans keep their seats, and they spend the next four years playing "obstructionists" against Biden.

It will be interesting to see who would win in that scenario.  Personally, I think Trump is too stupid to step down, and he will fight the Republicans on this. 


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07/02/2020 3:36 pm  

@allyn

OK - a lot to absorb...

What I agree with you on:

  • Rethuglicans ARE getting scared
  • We beat back the GOP very successfully in CA and we're hoping they are not able to make a comeback at all.
  • The gun-toting nutbars are a minority of Americans
  • Dems will rise up, peacefully, if Twitler "wins" (in quotes because I doubt it would be a legit win)
  • I do not advocate for violence
  • October surprise/SCOTUS/taxes - 100% with you on that!
  • Twitler won't step down, either because of stupidity or just his Dark Triad personality. Or both.
  • It is possible that GOP obstructionism will continue if the Dem election plan fails in any way.

What I see very differently:

  • Fearful Rethuglicans will resort to violent confrontation if Dems protest at all, they may not want to die on the BLM hill right now, but I think that will change if they feel absolutely cornered. We may outnumber them, but they can outgun/out bomb us if they try hard enough.
  • Much of the actual violence (NOT looting) was caused by agents provocateurs and the right wingers, in cognito or not, and by the police.
  • I absolutely advocate for vandalism - I care not one whit for statues, buildings, etc. If it takes some physical dismantling of the current racist system, so be it. It's a false equivalence to put property damage and human injury/death into the same sentence in this context, as they are not equivalent and suggesting that they are both inappropriate represents a privileged way of thinking about the protests.
  • I don't think the GOP will force Smallhands McDouchebag out of office prior to the election, and at this point I hope they don't because I shudder to think of the levels of theocractic autocracy that will be inflicted upon us if someone, say St. Mike, or Eddie Munster Ryan, runs in his place (because they might actually win).
  • QAnon proponents are starting to win primaries and governmental elections in purple and red states. To me, this bodes ill. I think that down the line, we'll see more violence as a result.
  • If TRE45ON gets sick or has a major stroke, I suspect it will be hidden in some way, and that if it's COVID he'll get the best treatment and not die of it. They'll use COVID as the excuse for lack of public appearances, but it'll be like when Woodrow Wilson had a stroke - they propped him up in bed and his wife forged his signature on everything.

Adding:  I continue to hope that I am wrong on a lot of these!


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07/02/2020 8:13 pm  

@jeanne-mayell Jeanne, what I meant was that many saw that we will eventually have a female president, including me.


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07/03/2020 9:29 am  
Posted by: @enkasongwriter

@jeanne-mayell Jeanne, what I meant was that many saw that we will eventually have a female president, including me.

Thanks, so I found three very old visions made in 2017 and 2018 that the 2021 Inauguration would have a woman executive. I'm cautious because I haven't seen this yet myself.  At a minimum it points to a female on the democratic ticket. 


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07/03/2020 10:32 pm  

My predictions for 2021.  50% intuition (brain) 50% gut feeling (gut).

I think that Biden is ill, knows he is ill, and is using his veep search as a way to find the next President.  I don't see him staying in office long -- I can't quite get to whether he bows out due to health concerns or doesn't make it in office.  I feel like he gets elected and inaugurated.  I am not good with temporal distance to see how long he's in before we're swearing in the 47th.  I DO feel like he wins most of the time.

There is a small piece of me that says Trump backs out before the election.  I just sense darkness there - I cannot tell if it's because of health, if he just up and quits, or what.  When I follow this path I see a much closer race.  I can't tell if it's Pence or someone else - just a silhouette.  This is the least likely path, but it's one I've seen.

I want to turn my response for 2021 now toward school.  It is apparent that this doesn't affect kids as it affects olders, but they can still spread it.  And if there's one thing that kids are good at, it's spreading germs.  I'm in Michigan, and they just released our return to school roadmap.  If I'm honest, it's the first thing that's disappointed me about my governor's response to the pandemic.  I get it -- she has to get reelected in two years, and her bases on safety are covered.  But requirements phase out at Phase 4.  Some of the things that really need to be done are listed as highly recommended, or recommended but are not required.  I work in a middle level district called an ISD that functions between the state department of ed and a group of local school districts, so I'm privy to the superintendent meetings and the like.  All of them agree the recommendations and strongly recommended things are great in theory, but they lack the finances to implement any of them.  Even with the additional funding, it'll only go toward meeting the requirements when they're in phase 4.  Like most other states we have a teacher shortage, and a substitute teacher shortage.  A friend of mine is the assistant superintendent of the school my kids go to.  We have a case of wine riding on the answer to this question:  "How much of the year will be in person?"  She said 60%.  Without thinking my response was 40% or less.  We're doing "over/under" odds on her 60% number because 40% is essentially three months of school plus some change and was too depressing to dwell on.

As I've sat here contemplating how I got to that answer in the days since, I see two paths.

Path 1:  We don't return in the fall.  I'll know the likelihood of this path in about two weeks as my corner of the state remained in Phase 5 while the rest of the state went down.  The traffic headed into my neck of the woods started yesterday and was the worst I've seen it in 20 years of living up here today.  If we surge, schools are mandated to close when a region goes to Phase 3.  (Individual schools need to close if cases creep up).  That means, a surge from the July 4 weekend that goes unchecked for two weeks, puts us in mid July when the numbers start increasing, and the mid-August start dates most of the state have decided upon won't be feasible.  On this path, we may return briefly, but once cold and flu season hits, I don't see us going further.

Path 2:  We escape (somehow) a surge from July 4 and open this fall.  By October schools are falling like dominos (I see dominos in both paths but I think it's because a school IN a region can close before the region itself closes as based on the plan) We have the longest winter break ever and possibly finish the year in person.

Both of these are fuzzy.  Strangely, fuzzier than my presidential election vibes.  Spring - like April feels like when we might get some of the old normalcy back (although "normal" for schools pre-pandemic was broken, so lets not return to that either)  I'm in the school equivalent of middle level management and all of my trainings next year will be virtual, so I won't be leaving my office and I won't be exposing myself every day.  But my wife teaches elementary special education and has severe asthma.  I worry for her.  And my kids bringing it home.  I think how close I am to it is why this is fuzzier to see.  I just keep feeling April.

I am bookmarking this page and coming back in October to see which path we're on in both the presidential race and schools -- in Michigan and around the country!  Or, to see if we're on a completely different one.  I still don't know which of my 50% (Brain or Gut) holds my intuition and which is projecting my wishes (Biden winning) and fears (40% in person instruction) on any glimpses I'm getting.


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07/04/2020 8:42 am  

@dannyboy

This is so interesting to read - thank you! I am also in MI (southeast) and have kids in middle school, so I was especially interested in your take on school this fall here. I am skeptical as well on how this will all pan out. I agree that we will know more as July goes on, how any surges affect things after the holiday weekend, etc. I just can't imagine how in-person school will manage, esp. with colds/flu going around at the same time. It just feels like utter confusion and chaos trying to sort out what is what and who stays home (both teachers and students.) I look forward to following your posts about this and other sources about our state as we proceed.

I was also very interested in your thoughts on Biden. I just posted a long Tarot read yesterday on the Random Predictions thread that you might be interested in (if you haven't already seen it.) I was focusing on Biden and also Kamala Harris. I am fairly new to Tarot, but feel like it is a really helpful tool for my own personal intuition. Guess I'll find out this fall if it is all coming from my imagination or my intuition! I was sensing Biden as possibly at transitional president as well - setting up whomever is his VP choice as the next long-term leader.

https://www.jeannemayell.com/community/new-set-of-timeline-predictions/random-timeline-predictions-from-people/paged/12/#post-30326


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07/06/2020 9:15 am  

@laura-f One thought in regards to your comment: don't assume liberals will be outgunned. Out"bombed" ... probably; liberals aren't really into indiscriminate destruction; out"crazy"ed ... likely. But outgunned? Not necessarily. My husband is a liberal, loves guns and shooting (has his whole life; he wanted to go into the military to be a sniper but his mom talked him out of it), and is willing and able to defend. One of his closest friends is even more liberal, even more into guns, former LEO, and former member of NRA ... he quit when it went off the rails. But from his experience in both law enforcement and the NRA, he knows that there are many more liberals with guns than people assume. My sister and her husband are both military, and they also have commented that there are more left-leaning people in uniform than people realize, especially now, with how much Trump has betrayed them. We DO have strength on our side, as well as rationality.


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07/07/2020 8:31 pm  

Teachers Count Too

The idea that teachers will be exposed to classrooms that have Covid 19 this fall lacks compassion. Governor DeSantis says children will not die from exposure. Even if we continue at the current infection rate of 1% of the Florida general population every school in Florida will likely have at least one Covid vector in each school.  Currently at the rate of 1 % infection, and a 1 % death rate in that one percent, we will have 10 dead COVID exposed teachers even with the current sheltering in place. The 200,020 teachers and support staff that have served our children well have been sheltering in place for months, and still they can die from this.  Please do not forget to count them.  They work.  They have families too.  Many of them are in a physically risky demographic.  The price of exposing education workers to more Covid, is not worth teacher’s lives.


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07/07/2020 9:10 pm  

@firstcat 100% agree.  I "liked" the post to support, but I don't like anything about it.  I was just talking about this tonight.  My brother and I were texting and I happened to mention how dismal the return to school plans are (even ours).  He wrote back "But hey, at least the days of 30+ students in classroom are over, that's a plus, right?"  I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.  

School that resumes in person next year, at least in Michigan, is going to look exactly like school looked every other year.  Everything that could slow the spread is listed as strongly recommended or recommended.  And no district is going to implement them because there's no money attached.  The CARES act money barely covers a month of hand sanitizer.  The only time there are requirements is if you're in Phase 4 or below.  (Phase 4 allows instruction in person but things like masks, distancing, staying in one room, etc. all become required).  If a state region moves to Phase 3 and below and you're out of school again.  

There was a massive substitute teacher shortage in Michigan before COVID-19.  Exactly no one new is going to want to sign on for $80 a day to replace the teacher who was diagnosed with COVID while they quarantine. 

There is a massive new teacher shortage in Michigan before COVID-19.  That certainly didn't get better.

There is currently a massive wave of retirements or retirement considerations taking place.  Last year broke so many great veterans.  There's no one to "tag in" when they go.  And many districts, because of budgetary concerns aren't replacing them -- which again, increases class sizes for everyone else and leads to an easy breeding ground upon which COVID can feast.

From the looks of the stats, about 1 in 5 adults who gets hit with COVID gets hit badly enough that they require hospitalization.

Where are the reinforcements going to come from?  And why does everyone including Betsy Devos seem to think they can just will COVID away from those public schools and declare them safe from the virus' path?

 


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07/07/2020 9:31 pm  
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Governor DeSantis says children will not die from exposure.

Really?

I guess he is forgetting about the children who have died from exposure.  Every school has children who would be at high risk also.  But our educators and staff, well, the are expendable.  That is what we pay them the big bucks for anyway right?  They are the first line of defense during a school shooting and are expected to teach in unsafe conditions during a pandemic.  

Excuse me as I go throw up now.  

 


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07/08/2020 5:55 am  

Wow, this is shocking. Is there no difference stated between primary schools and college for example?

 

No restrictions in the amount of ppl allowed in school or distance of students to teachers?


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07/08/2020 12:23 pm  

@moonbeam

There are two problems in the US with pandemic (or other) interventions:

1. Everything is couched in voluntary terms - meaning precautions are strongly recommended but never really enforced meaningfully. Similar for both health care and gun control.

2. Patchwork - whether related to healthcare or education (or politics), everything in this country is a patchwork down to individual municipalities. Since the end of WWII there has been little to no unifying principles coming out of the federal government. The neo-cons have clawed away at federalism bit by bit, this country is dying a death of a million cuts.

Because the Regime's only justification for anything is to hold onto power, they are using "states' rights" as the leverage point, basically punting (if you prefer sports terms) so they don't have to take the blame.

Remember, the Founders said - If you don't like the government, overthrow it.
But by the early 1800s we got the Sedition Act - which means it's illegal to overthrow it.
It appears the system is working as planned.

@firstcat

Your entry (and this one) really belong under the COVID-19 thread, as this thread is meant more for predictions for 2021 related to US politics.
@jeanne-mayell - ?

 


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