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Russia has the first vaccine for covid they have registered it. Many people believe that they cut corners. I am afraid T is going to buy it and give to US

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-08-11-20-intl/h_01ce01c500e69970d35a4c02ea77d262?utm_term=link&utm_content=2020-08-11T09%3A29%3A30&utm_source=fbCNN&utm_medium=social



   
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@Jessie1978 their vaccine has only seen phase 1 testing. They skipped 2 and 3. The EU will forbid simply because testing has to be done on a much larger scale before it is deemed safe.



   
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@jessi1978  Thanks for posting. While the EU will forbid, I wouldn't put it past Trump to try to disseminate it here. Tragically that means that many of us will not use a vaccine until we can be certain of it's origins.  



   
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@Jeanne-mayell, that is a frightening thought. Does Trump have control of your medication watchdog? Another thing to watch out for;-(



   
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Here are the Covid 19 Pandemic posts that got deleted in the update:

RE: The Covid-19 Pandemic

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I don't think that vaccine would ever in a million years make it past the FDA.

RE: The Covid-19 Pandemic

I know some on here are still skeptical about the origins of COVID-19. Scientists have looked into it, and the origins remain zoonotic - meaning it crossed over from animals into humans. It was not created in a lab nor did it "escape" from a lab.

I'll just leave this here:
Scientists Debunk Common Theory

 



   
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And here it is Russia is offering the US the Vaccine. As of now US said no thanks but people are worried that Trump will accept it through Emergency Use Authorization. They said “it’s the October surprise they fear” His supporters trust him. He can give it to them. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/13/europe/russia-us-coronavirus-vaccine/index.html

 



   
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@jessi1978 That article you posted about how the U.S. is reacting to Putin's offer to give us his vaccine reads like something out of The Onion, complete with the photo of Putin whose snake-like expression gives Americans the shivers, except for Mango who adores him. 

"Other US officials told CNN the Russian vaccine is considered so half-baked in the United States that it hadn't even piqued US interest in a serious way before the rollout. "There's no way in hell the US tries this (Russian vaccine) on monkeys, let alone people," one US government public health official said."

 



   
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Posted by: @jeanne-mayell

@jessi1978 That article you posted about how the U.S. is reacting to Putin's offer to give us his vaccine reads like something out of The Onion, complete with the photo of Putin whose snake-like expression gives Americans the shivers, except for Mango who adores him. 

"Other US officials told CNN the Russian vaccine is considered so half-baked in the United States that it hadn't even piqued US interest in a serious way before the rollout. "There's no way in hell the US tries this (Russian vaccine) on monkeys, let alone people," one US government public health official said."

 

I am not so sure Cheetolini adores Putin as much as he fears him. I am convinced that Putin has something on the Mango Menace that has worked quite effectively as blackmail material.



   
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This could be very good news. An inexpensive, accurate saliva test developed by Yale was just approved by the FDA:

https://theweek.com/speedreads/931533/fda-approves-salivabased-coronavirus-test-viewed-major-game-changer

 



   
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@cc21 Thank for this good news!



   
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Posted by: @moonbeam

@Jeanne-mayell, that is a frightening thought. Does Trump have control of your medication watchdog? Another thing to watch out for;-(

We do not have watchdogs of any kind in the US. The pharma-industrial complex runs the show in terms of what meds get used and how, and how much they cost (a lot).

We used to have watchdogs - Inspectors General for each agency - Twitler has systemically eliminated or rendered them all ineffective. So the FDA used to regulate all meds and vaccines, now they are all but useless - they are a rubber stamp agency for the oligarchy.



   
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@laura-f, Wow that's even worse than the information reaching Europe about what Trump is doing. What a 1984 world you're living in;-(

Not that it will help you much, but the world (excluding some nutters and dictators) looks forward with you and prays and hopes that sanity will prevail in November. This cannot be the end. It has to be a new, grand, beginning where the old status quo was purged by fire and the country is ready to move forward to 2021.



   
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@cc21

I took a saliva test at work several months ago. All hospital employees were tested. Maybe this one is an improvement.



   
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@moonbeam If you are talking about safety controls and government oversight of the pharmaceutical industry in the USA, it has been eroding for the last forty years, as have safety controls and oversight over the food industry. In Republican administrations, the fox is always put in charge of the. henhouse when it comes to oversight. But under Trump, they don't even bother to hide it. Oversight with the government  is nearly non existence. 

But for forty years, the Pharma industry has infiltrated the universities and medical schools so that drug research and clinical trials are biased in favor of approving drugs.  They have also infiltrated the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) who have the final word over approval of drugs.

Effexor, for example, a profitable anti-depressant, was banned in some countries, and banned for children in several European countries due to evidence that it causes suicide, but is widely available in the U.S. The FDA didn't even put a black box warning on this drug for decades after multiple suicides until drug companies lost so many lawsuits when people, including children, died after taking these drugs. There have been similar findings with other antidepressants, and again, few protective measures in the U.S.  The medical journals, where research is peer reviewed and published, are also influenced by the pharmaceutical companies.  

It's widely understood by health care advocates and activists, that  pharmaceutical companies are the Darth Vaders of the health care industry. And their influence over government and universities is powerful. 



   
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An eye opening book about how American medical and pharmaceutical companies hold us all hostage and not held accountable for dangerous medical procedures and drugs is 

An American Sickness: How Healthcare Became Big Business and How You Can Take It Back

Book by Elisabeth Rosenthal
 
The author is a doctor and former NYT medical journalist. 


   
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@Jeanne-mayell, I knew it wasn't all that due to the fact that certain products (like sleeping pills) can be bought off the shelf in the US where in the EU you need a prescription etc. That said, I do think capitalism went round the bent in America, because this sounds insane.

 

Here we all had lock-downs (except in Sweden) despite what it would do to the economy. In the US ppl cite the economy as a reason not to do it. Money over human life boggles the mind. Then again, we do have a better fall back system concerning rent, healthcare and all that... we're not out of a house or food if we do not have a job.

 

I really hope some good ppl get to be in charge soon and give the citizens of the US those certainties we've depended on for so long. It's crazy that the US doesn't have the things that other '1st world' countries enjoy. Peace and strength for all the Americans here. ❤️ 



   
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@moonbeam

Replying to you on a more appropriate thread.



   
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A lot of see-sawing on this but here's the most recent:

Scientists See Signs of Lasting Immunity to Covid-19, Even After Mild Infections - The New York Times

"Scientists who have been monitoring immune responses to the virus are now starting to see encouraging signs of strong, lasting immunity, even in people who developed only mild symptoms of Covid-19, a flurry of new studies suggests. Disease-fighting antibodies, as well as immune cells called B cells and T cells that are capable of recognizing the virus, appear to persist months after infections have resolved — an encouraging echo of the body’s enduring response to other viruses."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/health/coronavirus-immunity-antibodies.html



   
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 T is now pushing for an botanical extract called oleandrin. The best part he got this idea from Ben Carlson and The pillow top guy. I guess he is no longer going with the Demons seed Dr.  It gets even better the Pillow.com guy recently has taken a financial stake in the company. Per the CEO this can cure you of Covid in 2 days. I like how the article states that T is predisposed to magical thinking ? 

 

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/coronavirus-trump-reportedly-has-new-cure-mind-n1236942?cid=sm_fb_maddow



   
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@jessi19

Oleander is poisonous. 

4 facts about oleandrin, an unproven coronavirus treatment reportedly pitched to Trump - MarketWatch

 

www.marketwatch.com/story/4-facts-about-oleandrin-an-unproven-coronavirus-treatment-reportedly-pitched-to-trump-2020-08-17



   
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