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The Fall Of The House of Trump  

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(@the-mad-scientist)
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04/27/2018 5:06 pm  

I have been having the weirdest of weeks. In spite of having loyal friends and Spring arriving, I have had a really tough Spring so far, with awful sensations of foreboding and doom. Part of this is my own personal situation, with medical problems I would rather not have, but also the nervous impacts of the news cycle, which is moving at great speed now. We seem to have one headline after another, all of them stressful, and about large World events.  I think we are in for a rocky ride, but that I can begin to see some small gleams of light at the end of the darkness that is global politics at the moment. But there are times when I feel like a Buddhist monk trying to mediate at a rock concert.

So: I am getting some interesting stuff, back here at the Bat-Cave. (Yeah, it feels like that at the moment.). 

Firstly:  The uber-mess.

This is the beginning of the end for Trump. He has now gone past the point of no-return.

He cannot now retrieve himself from the self-created Uber-Mess that he has landed himself in.There is now, no way out for Trump, that leads to any kind of honorable, or even respectable exit of Him from Office. 

What I am getting, from the daily meditation and divination, after my morning practice, is a sense of impending doom, about Trumps near future. It seems that all our early predictions are now forming up, like gathering crowds. 

The big thing is that the scene is now beginning to resemble  Hitler in his bunker, during the last days, in some aspects. We are by no means there yet, But the tide has turned. He cannot now escape his future. I see that those who surround him, in his tight inner group of staff and advisors, are now themselves beginning to realize that when he falls, they fall as well and that in their case, it means serious consequences. I am talking here, at some point in the future, death, imprisonment,  or having to flee abroad.It means the loss of most of what they have, in seizures, lawsuits, and legal costs, or the impossibility of finding other work, after the Whitehouse mark of shame from the Trump administration is upon them. I am getting that discreet feelers are going out, from some in the inner group, at the second and third levels, towards Meuller. They will do anything, to avoid prison, and that is the best they can hope for. Disgrace, they cannot avoid, and it will haunt them the rest of their lives. 

The Meuller investigation is now spreading sideways, and when the history of this whole thing is written, there will be some surprises. (Read this bit again, in about three years time). Meuller is now getting fairly deep into the situation. There are two women in the Trump entourage he is talking to, right now. Plea bargains are being sought. Also, Kushner is utterly doomed. He will face a bleak choice, at some point, of death or jail. (but ends up in jail). Likewise, his wife abandons him. She finds herself, in a very difficult position, as a result, both financially, and publically. It is social death, and obscurity. 

What I am getting, is that by the middle of this year, Trump is feeling trapped, and he has to try and do something about Meuller but finds himself restrained by the rest of the GOP, who are getting both frightened, and also thinking hard about the future survival of the Party, as what could happen with Trump might break the party apart, by the 2020 elections, if they do not act. 

By Summer, 2019, this whole process is underway. It will become the second Watergate. It will rock America to its foundations. This is Nixon 2. Trump will be gone, from office, by late 2019. The next year after Autumn 2019, is going to be utterly unlike anything seen before in the USA. Historically, it will be a benchmark,  a turning point. Afterward, there is the even more disturbing "Year of struggle" that marks the 2020 elections. I will be posting on that, later. I do not see, at the moment, a Democratic victory in those. But they will mark the end of the present system. 2024, I see daylight. 

I am sorry that I have not gone into greater detail, but some things are best left, to happen. There are deliberate gaps in this narrative. But we do make it through this coming storm. 


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04/28/2018 1:04 am  

Thank you, Zoron. You are absolutely amazing.

I do have a few questions (for anybody to answer):

On the prediction page, there have been no predictions revealing an impeachment. With Trump being gone by Fall 2019, does that mean he resigns instead? Who or what would take his place?

Does this also mean his supporters (voters) will fall with him? Especially Evangelicals? I've always known that Evangelicals were a bunch of hypocrite crap but their unashamed, blatant support for Trump has truly blown me away.

Thank you!


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04/28/2018 12:12 pm  

Carmen, Zoron's predictions remarkably fit in an overview way what we've been seeing since Trump  took office, which is quite reassuring!  It is validating that a full nine months later, there's such consistency among our predictions.   Here is the blog post about Trump's Fate  posted August 6, 2017. It is remarkably consistent, and I know Zoron has not read it!  He always gets pop ups in his mind and reports what he gets quite spontaneously.  

Excerpt, dated August 6, 2017 from Donald Trump Presidency: How it Plays Out:  (The full article is much more detailed)

September to December 2017:  A Fall

  • The decline begins, although subtly and below the surface, in fall 2017 when Mueller’s investigation intensifies.  Natalie had a vision of a net closing in on Trump. Although he evades impeachment as the GOP closes ranks around him, the constant criticism, and the steady march of justice towards him via Mueller, is working on his mental stability.
  • So much of what he has done wrong in his life has evaded his self awareness.  His mentors are despots who have achieved wealth and power, so he doesn’t feel he’s done anything wrong.  But his mental stability depends upon public approval.  His breakdown will only come when he believes he has lost all hope of public approval.
  •  None of us has actually seen a moment when it is all over, but in the fall I saw a vision of Trump go sideways. In another vision, I saw a haggardly lion roaring and crying. Still he continues.
  • In November 2017, two readers, Lorie and Judy,  saw him take a fall.   In Judy’s vision, which may be literal and/or symbolic, he is leaving an event and twists his right ankle while walking down some steps. His entourage catches him before falling and puts him in a wheel chair. Another reader, in a totally separate vision, saw him in a wheel chair.
  • The precipitating factor in Trump’s fall is Mueller’s investigation.

 

All along it's been unclear whether Trump officially leaves office or just takes a back seat.  None of us has seen an official resignation moment or dramatic departure. Perhaps he just takes a back seat, like Ronald Reagan did during his last one-two years.  

The GOP will try to avoid a big showdown of fall and disgrace.  It is ironic to me that one of Trump's most frequently used words is disgrace or disgraceful. 

So we are all pretty much on the same page with an occasional minority report! Only once has someone seen him doing a second term. One person even saw him refusing to leave office in 2025 and declaring a third term. I don't discount minority reports, but we have a few readers whose accuracy has been exceptionally high and they haven't seen him do second term. 

As for his supporters, I feel it will follow the way all of these situations go.  The hard core will continue to support him.  They like his old white guy mentality, his rants about the establishment, and his unapologetic, authoritative manner.  

Others will begin to see his failings but not completely.  They run in herds like sheep, which is why they supported him in the first place.  They will adopt whatever talking points the GOP political consultants promulgate. They can always blame it on a corrupt FBI, a lying press corps, and political pressure. Was there ever an epiphany moment when support for the Iraq war changed among the majority who believed in it?  Not really.  They just gradually began to change their views.  True, they never found those weapons of mass destruction but there are those who still think they existed.  No matter, they would say there were other good reasons for that war.  Selective memory and a lot of ignorance. Same with Vietnam.  Then one day, you notice that most people don't support those wars any more but they rarely examine their own process that led to their initial support.


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04/28/2018 6:20 pm  

Thank you, Jeanne!  ❤️ 


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04/28/2018 7:24 pm  

One of the things that strikes me during this whole mess is that it is so much larger than Trump. Mueller's investigation is going to turn up so much more than just Trump's wrongdoing - it's going to implicate the Republican establishment before this is all over.


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04/28/2018 8:19 pm  

Ever since Trump became president, and the intensification of the far right, my gut have been telling me it'll be short-lived. The start of the fall was when Geert lost in the Netherlands elections and Le Pen lost in the French elections. Similar to others here, I see a female president in 2024, but I got a black one. I felt that Trump will lose to a moderate Democrat, signifying the further decline and eventual fall of the GOP.


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04/28/2018 8:44 pm  

Paul so true. So true. 


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04/28/2018 11:14 pm  

Hi Enka,

you wrote that you saw a black woman President in 2024. You also see DT’s Presidency short-lived. 

But does the black woman President not become President in 2020? 

I’m a little confused.

 

thanks,

Anita


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04/29/2018 12:34 pm  

Anita, in the last read the future night, I saw a moderate replacing Trump in 2020, and in the December read the future night, I saw a black female president winning in 2024.


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04/29/2018 11:59 pm  

Hi Enka, 2024 is the critical pivot year for America. Your vision of a Black women president in 2024 is very interesting, as I do see a black women running as a candidate, at least in the early stages of the candidate selection process. But this might be "Overlapping" with the actual candidate, who is white.But its all very early days yet. The situation is all too fluid, and unformed, to get a clear picture. I do see several women thinking very seriously about the Primaries, on the Democratic side. The GOP side is going to look seriously grotesque. (The Adams Family return, but this time they are in politics). 


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04/30/2018 12:04 am  

Paul,  agreed. The whole scandle of the GOP is going to come out, stage by stage. But the problem is that the "Base" of Trump, is a significant proportion of the population. (The worst segment of the population, actually. ).  Trumps popularity figures are now rising steadily. 


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04/30/2018 7:12 am  

Paul, speaking of the Mueller investigations rocking the GOP, in the last read the future night, I had a vision that on January 2019, Mueller will have damning evidence against the GOP.


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05/02/2018 2:04 am  

I keep seeing my Senator, Kamala Harris, as being someone who runs for president the next 2 cycles. (She is Jamaican + Tamil Indian descent, identifies as "black".) I get too mixed a view of who wins (seems to be a different person every time I try).  Then again, as Zoron says, it's too early for things to gel into a clearer picture yet. I have also seen assassination attempts on any non-GOP winner or potential winner of the presidential election in 2020, again, it's been different people, so I don't have any clarity (hopefully that will change).  Meanwhile, "IRL" the rats are jumping the ship - many GOP government people are leaving before the captain takes them down with the ship. My main concern on this is that the GOP will become a party of zombies - i.e., these idiots will rise to run again, and will still have their base of "uninformed voters" to count on putting them back into power (again). I'm so exhausted of this roller coaster ride...


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05/04/2018 11:24 am  

Does American politics change in (or after) 2024? The main problem we have today is money in politics, “money is speech,” as the SCOTUS has ruled. It’s engulfed both parties, R & D. Right now there are a few Democrats coming out saying they won’t take corporate or PAC money. But it seems to me very insincere, a political maneuver, just trying to copy Bernie Sanders whose campaign was funded by “small donors.” I was one of those and I still support Sanders. Considering what has been said here about the 2024 election, does this system change? Or is big money still the deciding factor in American politics in or after 2024? If it is, it won’t really matter who’s in power, the 1% will still rule.


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02/08/2019 2:56 pm  

2024 all i saw was fire?? Quite possible I was dreaming tho fell asleep pretty soon after.


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02/11/2019 1:42 pm  

I did a tarot read for the US overall energy of the year month-by-month, and to me it looks like a conspiracy will be uncovered in June. This makes sense when you know that the Grand Jury currently hearing testimony in order to issue indictments can only remain until June (they can only serve a maximum of 18 months, and that's only after issuing a 6-month extension).

However, I'm seeing that it isn't until October when someone or something is "laid to rest." The 4 of Swords frequently comes up for me for someone who "retires" (either by force like being fired or who withdraws from a job by choice), and this is what I got for October. Thus it's possible that Trump may hang in there for four more months after the reveal before he's gone - and he indeed may resign rather than be impeached (because that would likely take longer). I'd imagine it would take that long for the fervor against him from his own base to rise to deafening levels. (They won't turn on him until they discover what all he's truly done and see it in a tangible way.)

I also had seen a man voted in in 2020. People think he's the right guy, but then things happen to make people realize he's not. (Not anywhere near as bad as Trump, just not someone who can take on the task of fixing what needs to be fixed.) Then in 2024, I also have seen a woman of color (personally, I'm thinking Stacey Abrams - when I asked my cards about her potential for being president in the future, I got super positive cards, like whoa). She may be someone who will leave a real legacy, too - someone who may be seen as the person who saved us from ourselves and the climate changes.


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02/11/2019 8:56 pm  

Could the resignation be Kavanaugh and not trump?


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02/12/2019 2:06 pm  

I can’t see Trump just resigning and walking away. That is not his style.  I have feeling when his time is over and he is out of the White House he will still be stirring the pot with his FB account. Hopefully by then since he is no longer the President they will shut down his account.


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