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19/02/2019 12:35 am  

Hey everyone its Laynara, CWD, Chronic Waste Disease,keeps showing up in the news on my phone. Its also known as Zombie Deer Disease and they are fearing it may be able to transfer to humans one day. What do y'all think about this? ....sorry didn't know where else to post this.


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19/02/2019 1:02 am  

It has been in my news feed too.  I have heard for years that it might spread to people, at least 15 years.  I am not sure why it is news now.  Perhaps there is reason to believe it has already jumped and they are preparing us for that fact.  There are a number of restaurants in Colorado that serve elk meat and they have the meat certified clean from wasting disease.


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19/02/2019 1:12 am  

That's what I'm afraid of. They are saying the disease has spread to 20+ states due to deer migration and hunters. I don't know if this is something we should be concerned about besides that it kills off allot of the deer population.


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19/02/2019 6:48 am  

Deer have been herbivores for millions of years . Humans have plenty of canibal ancestors . Even today some people still do it . As we have seen with BSE, this prion protecting genetic heritage should keep most of us safe.


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19/02/2019 8:37 am  

Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) was originally found in Colorado in captive mule deer in the late 1960s.

Later found in elk in "80s, CWD has been identified in about half the States in the United States, as well as Canada, South Korea, Norway, and Finland.

And while no known crossover into humans has been seen (closest future concern might be monkeys) it is important that the World Health Organization has been staying proactive (since the late 90s) in promoting prion disease cross-over awareness to better understand it and to promote keeping it out of the food chain.

As we all are feeling more and more concern for earth and climate changes and their effect on our food and water supplies, the thought of losing wild game is of course both a cause for and concern for that, as well.

I grew up on subsistence fishing and hunting and my own family eats both venison and elk when we can get it now.

Unfortunately we have seen an abundance of careless and lazy "car hunters" who are lacking both knowledge, skill, and concerns for wild game in Oregon and their often irresponsible -- no licenses, shooting out of season, or wrong sex animals etc. in our own news.

Human behaviors alone makes me concerned for future generations in caring for both our earth and its creatures. as well as a potentially problematic shortage in many foods in our supply chain.

But it's pretty obvious that the news media sees the whole "zombie apocolypse" appeal of the last decade as a perfect tie in towards promoting this sudden rash of 'news' stories on a "zombie" wasting disease.

the beast, yes, we still have indigenous peoples whose survival conditions, as well as belief systems within their cultures still embrace cannibalism,

I'm an advocate of community supported agriculture and would embrace a vegan lifestyle before opening my mind to that alternative 😉

Love, light, and healing prayers,
💜 MIchele


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19/02/2019 10:13 am  

I like the title you gave this thread, Laynara - What is the hype about?  Yes, it is hype, scary stuff designed to sell. 

It's good to  explore the facts on this animal disease so you can put your mind to rest, but only if you can keep it in perspective. Forbes wrote a decent story about it that's low hype. 

It belongs so far  near the bottom of the list of threats to your health, that worrying about it poses a far greater threat to your health than the disease itself. 

No one has ever contacted this disease. But if you have deer, elk, or moose in your backyard, don't pick up the scat with your bare hands.  I spray the bushes and the flowers deer love with a mixture of raw eggs and water that keeps all deer out of my yard.  It dries on the plants and doesn't wash off all summer. I spray again when there's new growth.  

Michele covered the issue of eating venison safely. 

Stress is the big threat to our health. It's so much more lethal than any deer disease could ever be.  

The other big threat to disease is health care. Diagnostic tests, surgery, and meds may be the leading cause of illness. When I was getting my masters degree at Harvard School of Public health we learned that iatrogenic medicine (illness caused by medical diagnosis and treatment) --according to some studies -- accounted for over 75% of illness.  I don't know what the true figure is but it is stunningly high.  

They won't put that in your news feed. 

 

 


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19/02/2019 4:19 pm  

Jeanne,

Thank you for leveling the playing field of health care and healrh concerns 

This is my favorite quote for today:

Jeanne:

 When I was getting my masters degree at Harvard School of Public health we learned that iatrogenic medicine (illness caused by medical diagnosis and treatment) --according to some studies -- accounted for over 75% of illness.  I don't know what the true figure is but it is stunningly high.  They won't put that in your news feed. 

Love, light, and healing prayers,
💜 MIchele


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19/02/2019 4:43 pm  

Wow, thank you Jeanne for putting a name to something I have always suspected on an intuitive level. According to Merriam Webster, iatrogenesis is the "inadvertent and preventable induction of disease and complication by the medical treatment or procedures of a physician or surgeon."

Whether you are a consumer being bombarded by sensationalist "news" stories or a patient being presented with treatment options. your best bet is to listen to your inner compass. Is that article about zombie deer disease of more concern than a study about our acidifying oceans? Is that invasive knee surgery preferable to outpatient physical therapy? Probably not. 


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