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What do you see as a result of this, Zoron? 


   
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Zoron, It makes me wondering about Paddock suicide. When I look at the pictures of his room with his foot under AR-15-style rifle. Is it even possible for his foot to get under without knocking it over when he kill himself? Why even wear gloves unless you want to have a better grip, or was planning to leave after it? I would think you would want to keep the rifles closer to you, for even more access. Zoron, just wondering on your thought on this. 

  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/04/us/vegas-shooting-hotel-room.html


   
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Warrior witch, I see terrible things. There will be consequences, as the truth slowly emerges. 

 


   
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Hi, I am getting some dreadful stuff, am pondering what to say though. 

lets just say the whole thing reeks of a "Conspiracy theory" that turns out to be true. 


   
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Zoron, I'm not getting anything explicit because I don't have the stomach to read this guy. My hat is off to you that you can do it. And I'm interested in what you see. 

Like you,  I find it hard to believe that he made his money gambling, in spite of one report about his math ability to count when playing video poker. Casinos don’t cater to people who can beat the odds to the tune of a million dollars a year, as he claimed to his condo association in Mesquite where he resided. I’m also skeptical about his real estate success. As press reports about Paul Manafort have shown, real estate is a great way to launder money.  So is gambling.

Also I haven't  found convincing press coverage on how this guy made his money.  Has anyone seen any convincing press reports on this man other than the usual stuff that he made his money gambling and in real estate?  Show me his tax returns. Want to see documents on his real estate profits and gambling winnings. 


   
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I'm not discounting what you guys are saying because I don't know the truth about Paddock and I don't think we ever will but it is possible to make lots of money, yes millions in gambling. I worked in casinos, I met my husband in a casino and at the time he was a full time poker player. I know a lot of  poker players and a lot of them are very rich, yes millionaires. You can do it, if you know what you're doing. See gamblers gamble on everything, odds games, on other players, they form groups and sponsor others for a percentage, they invest together...so it is possible for him to have made lots of money. Also when you play a lot, the hotels do comp everything, so all you're really spending is your gambling money. We went to Vegas every 2-3 months and we paid nothing 90% of the time, so it is possible.

Having said that, casinos are great for laundering money as well, and that does happen because I've seen people get arrested for it. I think Paddock was very secretive and private for a reason, who knows what else he was hiding? But as far as his finances go, I think it's entirely possible he made money from flipping homes and gambling. This is the NY times article about his finances  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/07/us/stephen-paddock-vegas.html


   
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Diana, thanks for clarifying about gambling. I have a relative who does make a lot of money playing poker in competitions where the top players form groups and share winnings.  But I thought he was playing against the casino and didn't think you could consistently win that way.

 The NY Times article is helpful.   It explains in more detail than other stories how he made his money both flipping houses and gambling. It's credible, especially since he's been doing the former since the 1980's where we've had three decades of real estate boom over these years.

 So I guess the final question is why he went crazy.  His father, as the article said, suffered from psychopathy.  And his childhood was traumatic-- with a such a  father who then disappeared into the prison system leaving him  and his brothers and mother to fend for themselves..  

Still doesn't explain it. I go back to my original gut reaction to him -- he had a rage inside, a slow burn that caused him to carefully plan and execute this act over many months.  In visions I pick up a robot-like automaton quality in him.  

In the end, however, he just flipped. There are many people all over the world who are that crazy.  They just don't have access to guns in other countries, so they can't create a  massacre.


   
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I think your gut reaction is right on and that he did flip. Easy access to guns and his knowledge of them made it all possible :(  


   
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Las Vegas

I am getting that there us definitely more to this than the obvious. He moved in some sleazy circles, gambling, drugs, arms, etc. but deep links to the deep state. Also some strange international connections. The world he moved and operated in in, was essentially criminal, black ops, drug and gun dealing, and connections to intelligence organisations in the USA. The FBI is behaving strangely. I get that they are "Moulding" the investigation in order to fit it into the "FBI Paradigm". It has to "Fit" the FBI Corporate frame of a case. That rigorously excludes anything that might link him to the USA "Deep State", and its actors. Political authority and power, and ditto Financial power, is like an iceberg, in  America. 90% of it is below the waterline. Dreadful. We will never know the full story. I am going to close off further scanning on Vegas. It is making me too distressed. Also pointless. It would change nothing. What will come out, will emerge over the next six months. It will not be nice. Several books and documentaries  later, we will get a basic glimpse. But thats it. 

 


   
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Thank you, Zoron. Please take good care of yourself. We appreciate everything you do and share.


   
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Zoron, thank you. I hear you. It would not surprise me. 


   
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I use dowsing so here is what I got from the reading:

  • Stephen Paddock really is a lone wolf attacker, nobody else was involved.  There is no second shooter
  • He had more attacks planned
  • There is no conspiracy with law enforcement
  • The FBI is not covering up anything
  • He had a specific reason for the attack, it wasn't just a random spur-of-the-moment one
  • I get one word for the reason and it is depression
  • Because of his depression he felt the only way to release it was to conduct his attack. It would be akin to punching a pillow to release pent-up aggression.
  • He had no specific vendetta or agenda at the people in the concert.  They were just simply unfortunate souls in the cross hairs of a depressed person.
  • The causes of his depression are his family background but he did not have a chemical imbalance.
  • In the spiritual world, his spirit regrets the action.

And that's what I got so far.  If anyone would like me to ask additional questions feel free!


   
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Practical Nihilist, I simply do NOT agree with you. Myself, and some very experienced psychics, are getting the direct opposite of what you are saying. there is a body of evidence I have not posted. likewise others. That is all  am going to say. Zoron.


   
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Posted by: Zoron

there is a body of evidence I have not posted. likewise others. That is all  am going to say. Zoron.

So I wonder, why aren't you posting this body of evidence?


   
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I saw an article about Kemberly Suchomel, age 28, who survived the shooting in Vegas. She said while running to escape, gunfire was coming from several directions. Now she is dead. Died in her sleep. Said it could be a seizure as she had epilepsy, but could it be part of a cover-up?


   
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PracticalNihilist and Zoron, I am glad we are all passionate about this stuff!  And we are all on the same path of seeking truth. And I'm glad you are posting!  Let's keep the tradition started here of being accepting and kind and above all respectful to each other. I've been told that many forums end up getting negative. We can stay a community if we keep practicing kindness to each other.  :-)

 


   
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Just food for thought, snopes.com has an article on the second shooter theory:  http://www.snopes.com/second-gunman-shoot-fourth-floor-mandalay-bay/

Basically if there was a second shooter we would have seen broken windows on the fourth floor just like Stephen did on his 32nd floor room.


   
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I'll agree that more gunfire couldn't come from the fourth floor, but gunfire could come from other locations.


   
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