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(@14mamajo)
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Hey everyone, im just curious if anyone has any updates about predictions for a future world war? Wether its Nuclear or Non Nuclear, things arent looking great lately, and i really dont see how things can improve

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(@jeanne-mayell)
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Darren, thank you for posting and welcome to the Forum!  

We have not seen a WWIII vision. Nor have we seen a nuclear holocaust in the future. We've seen Middle East conflicts worsening, and there are visions of a war in the Middle East, and there is a thread for that in this forum. 

Climate change will cause pressures on borders, as we have seen in Syria where they have suffered from prolonged drought.

As climate change escalates, so too will violent conflicts as people are forced to seek land where food can grow.

The pressure we are seeing on our own southern borders with Mexico will increase in the next 20 years because of climate change. The problems they are having now, according to Bill McKibbon of 360.org, are related to climate change. 

Will these pressures create a world war? We haven't seen it yet. There are many solutions to the problem that don't involve wars. 

Perhaps it's time for another Read the Future night? 

 

 


   
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That is true, but i think the Russia-Ukraine situation is getting worse and of course if that leads to anything then it would result in NATO getting involved.

And the read the future could be interesting, i found out i am an Empath, but i have no real fear of a possible WW3, its more like when and not if in my opinion, but its good to hear no one here has seen anything bad

 


   
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I am opening up a new topic in the Climate Change section about some of the darker futures that are developing from climate change and the increasing concentration of wealth. Bill McKibben, founder of 360.org and one of the world's most prescient climate change advocates, has a new book out that is alarming on this subject and an important read.  McKibben first sounded the alarm on climate change with his 1989 book The End of Nature where he forecast the climate situation we have today including the pressure on wars that climate change would invoke. He has been correct, only the future he predicted has happened much faster.


   
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Because Darren has opened up a new thread and posted on the possibility of WWWIII, I am posting here in order to connect it with a big, and to be honest, might seem alarming, discussion we had a little over 2 years ago on this subject.

Begun by Zoron, it was over his concern over a potential missile launch by Trump.

While Zoron often spoke from what I would call "channeled" visions and like many of our visions did not occur as anyone of us feared on the predicted time frame, Zoron's  day job was as a scientist and his concerns were often climate change based as a climate scientist.  This thread was not.

In this thread I am linking to below, they are Trump and his Russian ties based with an avid discussion by Kathy and others (who also have not recently posted here on Jeanne's site).

The information Kathy shared is intense and involved White House leakers provided (theoretically of course) on Social Media. 

It is fascinating to read but again nothing came of the fears of an April 7, 2017 attack. 

And if you read the thread , read tge ENTIRE thread as it does expose untruths, fake accounts , and cat fishing. all designed to create fear in others.

I am hoping Jeanne that you reopened this thread to our viewing and it is o.k. for me to link to now.

https://www.jeannemayell.com/community/international-predictions/trump-syria-missile-launch-middle-east-policymaking-by-zoron/#post-74

The other topic site Jeanne has now set up was just created and while in reality might develop into discussions just as frightening,  it is critical that we all understand that negative, even horrible things have been happening since our last election and we are growing,  learning,  ( and dealing with and if anything  becoming better and stronger over time!) and drawing highly intelligent,  knowledgable people to this site, in general.

https://www.jeannemayell.com/community/climate-and-earth-predictions/climate-change-war-and-a-future-we-want-to-avert/#post-11127

We are all evolving here and our shadow work while not always recognized by those releasing negativity, fears or anxieties, or silliness. does not detract from the real work we are doing here nor from the genuine good and service to our world and to humanity that many of us were drawn here and consistently seek to do.

Center yourselves,  surround yourself with our shared heartlight and deep love we extended to all who visit here and breathe in and out in a gentle focused manner if at any time any discussion makes you anxious and of course simply move on to easier topics or discussions  ?


   
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Zoron was retired, did not have a day job, but followed the work of a climate group that focused on the Arctic.  He might have been a member of that group but I am not sure.  


   
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So what do you see happening with USA/Russia/Nato? Theres China, Iran and N Korea too of course


   
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As I was contemplating this post, I got a feeling of certainty that we will never see a "WWlll" in the mode of the previous WW's. Yes, our world is going through a deep transformation, and so will be changed in many ways that we can only imagine at present.

To serve a vision of a greater good is to make it so... what we hold in that vision is the future.


   
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What do you see happening in the future in regards to US and Russia? And other countries involved


   
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I agree with Stargazer. It's pretty clear that Putin has been very successful at "taking over" "controlling" "occupying" other countries by destabilizing their citizens and installing oligarchs of his choosing. Who needs bombs and guns when social media propaganda, corrupt political figures, and hacking into utilities, infrastructure, and voting mechanisms are much harder to fight and oh so effective. 

I'd say WWIII has already been in place for some time with Ukraine, Syria, Turkey, the US, Great Britain...who is next. 

But also agree that it is part of a larger transformation and a spiritual coming of age. 


   
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Sometimes I get a premonition of a Global Union that involves the whole world (on a long range timeline), and a complete shutdown, dismantling of nuclear weapons, as if they are "boxed up" and inactive, just gone and taboo. (Like Pn & Tp &K*m).

This Global Union would be in cooperation, and not coercion, for the survival of every species left on Earth including the human species. The real 'war' is climate change, and how we have adapted that survival mode. People have finally awoke, but not without hard lessons and perhaps great catastrophe along the way.

 


   
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Stargazer, I think you're on the right track. I also feel like we're not going to see a monolithic world war as we did in the 1910s and 1940s. I've read several articles about how the increasingly erratic economics of fossil fuel extraction, coupled with stresses induced by climate change, will limit the geographic scope of warfare (I'd provide a link, but I can't find any of the articles). So yes, we could see a period of intense regional strife, and as Melissa notes, that period may have already started.

I also like your premonition Stargazer about a cooperative Global Union. We can look to the Iroquois nations of the Haudenosaunee League as an example; the five original nations of the League (Mohawk, Onondaga, Cayuga, Seneca, and Oneida) established a cooperative confederacy several centuries before Europeans came to North America. Most importantly, the Haudenosaunee guiding principle was (and still is) union in diversity and the Law of the Great Peacemaker. I could go on and on about this subject, but I'll just say this; if indigenous peoples are to play an outsize role in guiding global society in the next century (as Jeanne and several other psychics have been envisioning), then one of their major contributions will be a novel understanding of cross-cultural partnership.


   
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'Union in diversity'  Thank you so much for your insight, Coyote. As eclipsed at the present as our Native American cultures are, I do foresee something like a model emerging from the chaos when the smoke clears, and a return to sanity, however hard won that may be.

I am reminded of how viciously warring the Iroquois nations were at one time, as were the Siouxan nations (some of my diverse heritage), and that to unite in peace was for the benefit of all the tribes.

"This we know, the earth does not belong to man. Man belongs to the earth. All things are connected. Like the blood that unites us all.

Man did not weave the web of life. He is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself."

(Chief Si'ahl - Seattle)

 


   
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I keep reading about conventional wars between US and Russia and other countries, even without nuclear weapons being used it will still be a huge catastrophe for the world, WW2 hardly used nukes and 800million died, imagine it now, its terrifying for the future if something happens


   
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Darren - not that it's any less horrific, but 85 million died as a result of WWII.

45 million in WWI

55,000 in Korean War

2 million in Vietnam conflict

750,000 in Rwanda genocide

1.7 million due to Khmer Rouge

20 million due to Stalin regime

55 million indigenous people around the world are believed to have been killed by colonizers and slave traders between 1400-1800

Uncounted millions died in China's Cultural Revolution

I have 2 points to make on this:

1. It does no one any good to report false or even honestly mistaken statistics.

2. I'm coming to the conclusion that humans are mostly just a bunch of murderous chimpanzees with opposable thumbs but no prehensile tails...

 


   
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I did not intend on making a mistake or over exaggerating the number of deaths in ww2, i merely failed to realise that my keyboard which is very sensitive put 2 zeros instead of the one...

 


   
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Thank you Darren. As the auto correct and frequent numeric mistyper/ your numbers didn't cause even a glimmer of a response except in remembering my father and 3 uncles stories of WWII. My fourth uncle died while on a mission and one of their cousins imprisoned after parajumping into Italy.  

I don't think anyone here truly thought you or your source sought to mislead.

We value your having joined in here. Getting new members willing to post on topics that mean a lot to them or cause most worry or concern is just as important as making predictions, sharing newslinks we may or may not have read or listened to each day. 

Please continue to join in and welcome friend to my personal club of those of us typing on troublesome devices!

Somedays all I do is laugh over my typos just as i seek to correct them as my time limit ends abruptly minutes after I've started due to my limited wifi signal where I live.

We all just keep trying don't we??

 


   
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Yeh i understand that, its a shame people jump to conclusions without realising it could just be a typo, but anyway, are there plans for future readings or any event? Im reallt curious to know what happens in a world full of tensions and WW3 articles, i mean for me its when and not if unfortunately 


   
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