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04/28/2020 11:05 pm  

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That is exactly the impression I had when I first saw a picture of Kim Yo Jung a few day’s ago.  She is dangerous to the extreme, so dangerous I even had serious qualms about posting about her.


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04/29/2020 12:17 am  
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...The Sanskrit term Nada Brahma means Sound is God, suggesting that it is a musical universe. Eben Alexander refers to the infinitely loving divine source as Om, and shares, as you mentioned, that celestial songs and hymns open up portals to even higher realms. I have felt the “otherness” of cathedrals, churches and other places of worship because all the prayers and hymns and chants and words of love and power that have been offered through the centuries have altered their fabrics of reality. I understand all these - at an intuitive level.

I was wondering how you perceive/sense/feel this musical universe in your journeying and how does it impact you in your daily life.🙏

Uni-verse. One verse. One song. 

I'm definitely going to have to read Dr. Alexander's book now. I've never seen anyone mention the way that Celestial spirits seem to open portals to higher spheres with their songs—at least not that I can consciously remember now. I'm so deeply curious now to see what else he's experienced.

And it's beautiful what you've written about the energetic architecture of sacred spaces—so very, very true.  

The answer to your question is: so deeply! and so much! Haha...

I have synesthesia, which I bet most people posting to this forum have in one form or another, so some of my sensory perceptions (smell and sound perception, in particular) are incredibly sensitive, but also blended.

I'm highly sensitive to tones and sounds (I can hear an appliance whining right now and it's making me a little nauseous, tbh). With higher octave tones in pure pitch, I often smell florals, as though each note has its own nectar or aroma. Middle octave tones or certain harmonic chords sometimes produce color. Base notes have texture, something like an energetic sensation that's coming in from all directions. The same with any discordant sounds.

Death metal feels like grinding teeth or gravel being rolled underneath my skin, or sometimes like sinews being torn, etc. So, while I can appreciate it intellectually (microtones are difficult to produce and amp distortions are interesting, like painting with fireworks), I feel like my entire body/mind is being run through a meat grinder when music is too harsh or distorted. Maybe I'm just a delicate little flower.

That said, if I want to induce an altered state for journeying, sound and scent are always the way to go. 

In the Spirit realms, I've observed the harmonic notes that flowers produce when they open. It sounds like angels singing. The sun has a sound; every stellar body produces a note. Together, they create a magnificent symphony. I've made a practice of learning to listen for it from a deeper part of myself in the ordinary waking state. (I believe we can invoke, enhance, and even master absolutely any subtle capacity with consciousness and attention.)

A synchronicity just occurred for me related to all of this. A long time ago, I was shown how all of the animals and plants in an ecosystem create a symphony, too. The call of crickets, frogs, mating birds, and literally every other sound within a natural setting are in a natural harmony with one another. I was shown how this creates a resonant energetic field with the most beautiful geometric patterns: a life field.

Well, I recently heard an NPR podcast about a scientist who made a lot of nature recordings and discovered this too: that natural sounds are intrinsically harmonic. Frogs and birds and so on are all pitched in harmony, so that they're never speaking over one another. He postulated the now-accepted theory that this was an evolutionary adaptation because if they were to disharmonize, all of the frogs in a given pond, for ex, would no longer be able to hear one another to sound their calls in unison, and predators could single them out more easily. Human sounds like traffic and planes and all types of other nonsense have interrupted natural symphonies everywhere, further destabilizing ecosystems. 

But Nature didn't arrive at harmonic resonance after billions of years of accidental mutations; it wasn't an "adaptation." She was born through it. Through song.

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04/29/2020 3:32 am  

@vestralux

I loved reading what you wrote about your synesthesia experiences.  I did not know about nature harmonic nature sound.  So fascinating.

My oldest daughter has a minor bit of synesthesia. She sees colors when she sees numbers.  Every number has an associated color to it, always the same number and color.


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04/29/2020 3:33 am  

@vestralux

Wow, your posts in this thread are fascinating! Thank you for sharing your dreams, visions and insights with us.


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04/29/2020 9:17 am  

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A long time ago, I was shown how all of the animals and plants in an ecosystem create a symphony, too. The call of crickets, frogs, mating birds, and literally every other sound within a natural setting are in a natural harmony with one another. I was shown how this creates a resonant energetic field with the most beautiful geometric patterns: a life field.

Oh, I love this so, so much. While I don't perceive it in the beautiful way you described, when I get time in nature, away from the noise of the city, I sure feel it. If only we had more access to truly wild, old growth places less marred by human civilization. 


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04/29/2020 1:41 pm  
 Posted by: @vestralux

I have synesthesia, which I bet most people posting to this forum have in one form or another, so some of my sensory perceptions (smell and sound perception, in particular) are incredibly sensitive

@Vestralux, When I read your post last night, this book title immediately popped into my head “Hybrids: So You Think You Are Human” by Tanis Helliwell. I’m sure this is relevant to many on this forum, those of us who have always felt like strangers in a strange land and who have found community on the margins. 

My husband, a recording engineer and producer, has some synesthesia too, though not as acutely. Like you, he feels pain in this teeth and rumbles in his stomach with sharp and off-key notes. He feels auras, he doesn’t see them.

Once again, a beautiful share and a fascinating read. So wondrous to be able to hear the symphonies of flowers when they are opening. If everyone in the world could hear such music or see the matrix of life, we would never want to harm the environment. Not that we should at all. 

I am going to practice what you suggested, to listen to the music of the spheres and the symphonies of nature in my waking moments, to make an ordinary life extraordinary.
(And the writer in me wonders if a book from you is in the making 😀.)

Thank you for enriching my day!! 


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04/29/2020 4:58 pm  

@lovendures Oh yes! That's probably the most commonly shared aspect of synesthesia. All my numbers and letters have a color specific to them (and something like a personality), which has remained consistent all my life. My number 2 is a bright, cheery spring green, for example, while 4 is a relatively deep and somewhat serious shade of blue. One synesthete's color associations aren't necessarily the same as the next synesthete's, though. But I've heard of math prodigies who can rapidly calculate very complex numeric problems simply by seeing how the colors of their numbers blend and merge. Fascinating, right? 

I'd bet that your daughter has other forms of synesthesia that she just hasn't recognized yet. It took me nearly 35 years or so before I realized that the way sounds, tones, and music affect me isn't a given for everyone.

 

@katiepdx and @herondreams and @CC21 🙏🏽🌷

 

@pikake You know, I've never investigated much related to the starseed/hybrid type perspectives; it just hasn't called to me. A psychic once told me I have Andromedan lineage, but I don't really know what that means, if anything.

I did have a very powerful visitation experience when I was about 7 years old, and it was purely positive. I didn't see any other bipedal beings (that I remember), just a giant "ship"/visitor in the shape of a planet. It even had moving clouds in its atmosphere. This visitor appeared in the middle of the night, hovering over the cotton field that was immediately outside my bedroom window, which had either opened or already was open. There was light in my room that woke me, but I wasn't afraid at all. I just walked to the window and ... communed? with this visitor. It didn't look like Earth, but it felt unmistakably alive, intelligent. 

I had another set of experiences when I was 19, in college. I kept waking to the terrifying sensation of something or someone attempting to forcibly pull me out of my body. When I finally demanded to know who, I heard "aliens!" Seems ridiculous, and I understand how this can be explained away. But I'd been a devoted astral traveler from as young as I can remember, and that experience ended my out-of-body adventures right then and there. For a couple of decades, anyway.

I've also seen beings in the non-ordinary realms that didn't exactly feel like they were from this sector of the galaxy. But any being with enough practice and skill can appear any way it chooses in the astral (even deceased earthbound spirits can do this) so it's impossible to judge by appearance—only by energetic frequency. And I guess I'm not the sort of psychic who gets downloads from star beings, so far as I know anyway.

Mostly I feel deeply human.

There's an energetic meaning in the word "human" that transcends "homo sapiens," and which I believe would apply to other intelligent lifeforms or inter-dimensionals. We're all borne of the same womb, children of the same Cosmos, after all.     

Posted by: @pikake

If everyone in the world could hear such music or see the matrix of life, we would never want to harm the environment. Not that we should at all. 

Indigenous peoples and their shamans, in particular, have been making the same claim quite urgently for hundreds of years now. We can all learn to see and sense the subtle worlds again. These capacities are innate to being human, or any living creature at all. 💛


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04/29/2020 5:53 pm  
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All my numbers and letters have a color specific to them (and something like a personality), which has remained consistent all my life.

@Vestralux, So glad you described your synesthesia in greater detail. Are you therefore painting when you are writing? A page is therefore a blank canvas and your creativity is an unlimited color palette? Does a word change in hue when you add extra letters to it? For instance,  a word like inspire - how does it alter when it becomes  inspirational or even uninspired? When a word doesn’t fit in the symmetry of the sentence or detracts from the meaning you wish to convey, does it look colorless or greyed out?

I also mean to ask whether the sound frequencies you come across in your journeying consistently conform to color families so that they are instantly recognizable? E.g 528 Hz is the frequency of love; would it always be the same red or pink or green (that being the color of the heart chakra), or nuances of the color family on each encounter? 

I am not exactly a fan of alien archetypes (although I realize we are not alone in space as there are multiverses and I loved reading about your encounters). I do identify very closely with mythical creatures, especially dragons. I believe they once existed in this dimension - there is no way that dragons are captured so similarly (some with wings and others without) in stories, art and paintings across cultures and time unless they once walked the earth. But they are no longer visible to our eyes at our current levels of vibration because they just stepped away, like unicorns, elves, gnomes and fairies, into a different dimension. They are just not too far away.

So much for us to learn and thank you for sharing your gifts with us.


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04/29/2020 6:33 pm  

@pikake Wonderful questions! I'll be back to share (need to get some deadlines met now). Thank you so much for your beautiful curiosity and interest and sharing. This dialogue is lovely ...although Jeanne might get us all, me especially, for the continuing derail. 😉 


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04/30/2020 12:39 am  

@vestralux Just want to say that i enjoy reading your writing.


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05/01/2020 12:53 am  
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Posted by: @vestralux

All my numbers and letters have a color specific to them (and something like a personality), which has remained consistent all my life.

@Vestralux, So glad you described your synesthesia in greater detail. Are you therefore painting when you are writing? A page is therefore a blank canvas and your creativity is an unlimited color palette? Does a word change in hue when you add extra letters to it? For instance,  a word like inspire - how does it alter when it becomes  inspirational or even uninspired? When a word doesn’t fit in the symmetry of the sentence or detracts from the meaning you wish to convey, does it look colorless or greyed out?

I've never thought about it as "painting when writing," but that's a profoundly beautiful description of what all writers do, yourself included, I'd say. 🌷

And, yes, words change in hue when new letters are added! That said, I have to be thinking of the words mentally to see these color changes. The words I'm typing into this text box appear black ... because they are, ha. The color (and other) associations a letter, number, or string of letters and numbers has to me is only seen mentally, or as an overlay from my interior field—the same way we see our visions or any other kind of visualization. 

So, to answer your question about whether I edit unwieldy words out of sentences based on color symmetry or because they appear grayed out: nope. I'm sure I do it the same way you do—on feeling.

To answer your question about the word "inspire," it's a fluid movement of white-to-yellow-to-pale amber. (Not all words are fluid or kinetic in the same way.) Interestingly, the letter "p" is green for me, and "r" is a dark navy, but those colors don't show up when I think of "inspire." Weirdly, "inspirational" does become green in the middle. And "uninspired" is just a muddy brownish orange, then nothing. That's because, for me, the letter "u" is always an earthy brown, and the letter "n" is orange. The color of the rest of the word kind of disappears after the "un." I've never thought about it, but I guess that expresses the energy of "uninspired" pretty well.

If you know of someone with this type of synesthesia (grapheme), you can test them. Find out what their color associations are for different letters or numbers, and then test them months or years later. Their colors will never change. 

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E.g 528 Hz is the frequency of love; would it always be the same red or pink or green (that being the color of the heart chakra), or nuances of the color family on each encounter? 

I believe love has infinite frequencies, probably countless we haven't discovered (or helped create) yet. Listening to 528 Hz, I see many colors, actually. And I feel a sensation that's difficult impossible to describe. I'd need to use my hands to show you the shape and directionality of the energy, but it flows toward me in round ribbon-like tubes that are soft the way that velvet is soft if velvet were also water. (Epiphany: my parents did way too much LSD.)

I see all kinds of colors in the chakras, which I know isn't that unusual. Sometimes a human or a spirit's heart chakra appears a beautiful golden wheat color, for example. Or there may be many sunset hues, including violet, in the sacrum. (For most living people, I'm often just noticing where the lights are off, so to speak—where there's a freeze or an absence of energy.) 

 

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05/01/2020 1:33 am  

I've enjoyed the discussion here, but does anyone have an update on the person the thread was named for? Asking for a friend 😘 


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05/01/2020 4:08 am  

@vestralux

This is so interesting! Thank you for letting us have a peek into your world. I find synesthesia fascinating. I don't have that ability - except for one time at a Grateful Dead concert when the videos on the giant screens tasted like pizza 😀 But I may have had a little chemical help with that 😉  

If you would indulge me (us?) a bit, what does your handle VestraLux looks like to you? I'm so curious. 

Thank you!

 


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05/01/2020 3:07 pm  

Oh boy. 

Posted by: @kateinpdx

one time at a Grateful Dead concert when the videos on the giant screens tasted like pizza

I happened to catch the last live Grateful Dead show that ever played. (Summer of '95, Soldier Field, Chicago, one month before Jerry died.) And I totally feel you. 😆 

 

Posted by: @kateinpdx

what does your handle VestraLux looks like to you?

It starts out parakeet green ("V") and turns indigo ("L"). The phrase vestra lux means "your light" (yes, yours!), so there's also a feeling of luminosity to it which isn't associated with the letters necessarily.

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I've enjoyed the discussion here, but does anyone have an update on the person the thread was named for? Asking for a friend

Haha! Thank you for being the sensible, direct, focused Laura we love. 

I'm not going to look again in the way that I did before (suffice it to say that I learned a valuable lesson), so if anyone else is having a strong psychic sense about it, I'm quite curious myself. 

 

 


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05/01/2020 4:34 pm  

Thank you @vestralux!

That's beautiful and just what I imagined.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...


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05/01/2020 4:48 pm  
 
Posted by: @vestralux

I believe love has infinite frequencies, probably countless we haven't discovered (or helped create) yet.

@vestralux, Thank you so much. It has been a sumptuous and rich treat, getting a glimpse of the multi-woven, multi-layered tapestry that is your world. You’ve relit my interest in shamanism - in the 1990’s, I receiveD a blessing from the Q’ero shamans who had travelled from the Andes to LA. They were dressed in their heavy woolen clothes, but toughed out the California summer to do their part in fulfilling the prophecy of the eagle and the condor. Next, I read every book on Peruvian shamanism written by Alberto Villodo but fast forward to now, I m happy just to learn to speak to animals and plant spirits. I believe that is one level of consciousness in shamanism (I’m reading about the 8 orbits now).

So many more questions to ask and experiences to share but maybe we can pick this up in another thread. Btw, I must have missed this - what lesson did you learn from your journeying into the Liminal for KJU? With much gratitude.💚


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I've enjoyed the discussion here, but does anyone have an update on the person the thread was named for? Asking for a friend 😘 

Kim Jung Un Resurfaces waving to the crowds according to North Korea State Media  (New York Times) Also reported in every main stream paper. 

 


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05/01/2020 7:34 pm  

Yep, he reportedly did a ribbon cutting ceremony, though no pictures have been provided.

It would be interesting to see if he is in public again soon.  Also if there is film or photos.  He is known for having a body double...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52508437

 


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05/02/2020 2:28 pm  

The teeth are different.  Compare Kim’s smile on a google search to the teeth of the ‘Kim’ in the NYT’s photo.  They don’t look the same.  


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05/02/2020 2:41 pm  

@lisa   Kim Jung Deux ?


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05/02/2020 4:55 pm  

The Internet is filled with reports of extensive footage released today on North Korean state television, showing Kim walking around, looking normal, joking, and smoking.  Health experts consulted by main stream media observing the videos could not detect anything wrong with him other than the fact that he is obese, smokes four packs a day, and his family has a history of heart disease. One site pointed to a scar under his arm, that, if not photoshopped, which it could be, indicates a stent procedure. I couldn't find any mainstream media reporting the scar, for what it is worth.

Given he is high risk for getting dangerously ill  if he catches the virus, it could be that he was sheltering from the virus.  North Korea doesn't like to say they even have the virus, but in the videos released, everyone but Kim and his chiefs were wearing masks.

Satellite images showed Kim’s personal train arrived at a railway platform reserved for his use in the coastal resort of Wonsan sometime between April 15 and April 21. His presence at Wonsan was also suggested by the fact that luxury boats owned by Kim were spotted outside his personal villa.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/video-of-north-koreas-kim-opening-fertilizer-factory-quashes-rumors/2020/05/02/97e0aac2-8c42-11ea-9759-6d20ba0f2c0e_story.html

 


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05/02/2020 7:58 pm  

@pikake

I read through The Afterlife of Billy Fingers this week and loved it! What a fascinating account and so different from anything else I have read. Thank you so much for suggesting it. An aside: My daughter and I are currently watching an episode about Life After Death on The Unexplained (the new series hosted by William Shatner.) It starts with Dr. Eben Alexander's experience and I thought of you and this thread. 🙂


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05/02/2020 8:38 pm  

@cc21 So glad you enjoyed Billy Fingers! I finished my 3rd read a few days ago and paid more attention to the details -especially the discussion of soul tribes. A wonderful synchronicity to see an episode on Dr Alexander on TV! Dr Alexander has 3 books in total - he veers towards the intellectual but perspective-enhancing all the same. Any books you would recommend?


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I look forward to reading it again - I can see how you could focus on different details each time. I have read a lot of the mainstream near-death experience books. One I found interesting was Dr. Mary C. Neal's book "To Heaven and Back". "Near Death Experiences: The Rest of the Story" by PMH Atwater is also interesting. There was one I cannot recall that described the experiences of people who witnessed their loved ones dying and had strange/interesting glimpses of the beyond, which was really interesting since it was not a direct NDE, but I think they called it a near-life experience. If I can find that, I will send along the info.


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05/03/2020 8:22 pm  

@cc21 Wonderful recommendations! I have not come across them before so I now have something to look forward to. I had signed up for Dr Alexander’s free webinar United in Hope and Healing, designed to offer support during the pandemic, but one of the more recent guests was Dutch cardiologist Pim van Lommel who wrote Consciousness Beyond Life. To access the archive, you’ll need to create an account at https://www.innersanctumcenter.com/products/one-mind-united-in-hope-and-healing.

Hope this is of some interest. 


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05/12/2020 1:54 pm  

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Been following this site throughout the Trump nightmare years. I am not really qualified to be one of the intuitives here, but when I read through your vision it felt true, and even when the photos returned, I still had the strong sense that your vision was on target and that he is comatose if not dead. We will learn eventually. 

It does remind me of film noir/farce the Death of Stalin, but even bleaker. One can only hope that a North Korean Khrushchev will emerge ...


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Been following this site throughout the Trump nightmare years. I am not really qualified to be one of the intuitives here, but when I read through your vision it felt true, and even when the photos returned, I still had the strong sense that your vision was on target and that he is comatose if not dead. We will learn eventually. 

It does remind me of film noir/farce the Death of Stalin, but even bleaker. One can only hope that a North Korean Khrushchev will emerge ...

Hi @kerry. Thanks so much for posting your thoughts.

I sincerely believe that the individual in question has recently had a Near Death Experience because it was shown to me, as clearly as if I'd been present in the flesh to witness it. I observed a number of details that are highly symbolic and meaningful to North Koreans, particularly as they pertain to the death rites of the ruling classes. I had zero knowledge of those things going in, and it was quite beautiful, if I'm honest.

The particular practice I used has never failed me, though this is certainly only the case because my teachers and guides are extremely committed to their work. They're also extremely dedicated to my learning process, which means I'm allowed to swim into shark infested waters if I insist on observing a captivating jellyfish. With this particular journey, I hadn't done my research in advance (and shame on me), so I didn't realize going in that the Koreas are steeped in ancient and continuing shamanic folk traditions, ones that feel very warrior-like. I'd incorrectly assumed N. Korea to be largely atheist because it's a communism that punishes religious ideology and practice, right? Well, I learned otherwise the hard way, and that's really all I intend to say about it here, except that the majority of their shamans are female and they are FIERCE. 

I don't know what's happening with this individual now, or whether he'd had a medical procedure which precipitated the NDE, but I do feel he was being cared for by concerned medical staff for a period of time. It appears that he's rallied, which means he elected to return to his body. (I sensed him being given the choice.) I haven't read any of the news about his return other than seeing headlines saying that he had. I also know that some people were initially questioning whether it was really him or not. All I can say is that I do feel strongly that he's indeed back on this side of the veil, and that whatever "life of the SL as usual" things he might be doing, or however he might appear outwardly, he's deeply afraid right now. He's feeling wounded, vulnerable, and more paranoid than ever. He's an injured animal and I don't think that will go very well for the people around him—or ultimately, for him.

I still see a coming disruption in power there, like the knocking down and moving of chess pieces on a grid. I was also shown the number 3 at one point, but I'm not sure what it could mean. Three months? Three years? Three people? Three nations? I just don't know. I suspect that you're underrating your own intuitive abilities, so maybe you'll get a flash of insight into this and share. 

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05/12/2020 3:09 pm  

As I was just about to leave this thread to get back to work, I had a sudden flash. I knew about a woman who'd apparently gone to the dentist's office and died in his chair shortly after being given local anesthetic and a nitrous oxide mask. She had an NDE before she was revived. An impression of that story just leaped back into my awareness.

Maybe it's suggesting that he went in for some kind of routine, normally non death-threatening procedure, and experienced some kind of collapse but was quickly revived. I have no idea what that would have been and don't think it matters much in any case because we will almost certainly never discover the truth about it from any media, period.

There exists no other country in the world that is so successful at concealment. And all they produce in their own "news" is state crafted propaganda. 

 


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06/13/2020 8:53 pm  

So,  Anyone find it weird that there has barely been any news of Kim Jong Un since his ribbon cutting and his sister is the one whoo just threatened S. Korea?

Also if you haven't seen comparison photos of Kim Jong Un before and after the ribbon cutting ceremony you should.  He has totally different teeth. Un is known for using body doubles.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/asia-pacific/502610-kim-jong-uns-sister-threatens-military-action-against-seoul


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06/14/2020 11:14 am  

Yeah what does everyone see happening with the situation in Korea? It doesn’t sound at all good, and it could lead to a wider war if anything should happen, deeply concerned 


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