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Posted by: @lovendures

I am stunned. 

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Boris Johnson is asking the Queen to shut down Parliament for a few weeks ahead of the UK's scheduled departure from the European Union on Oct. 31.  The move is aimed at reducing the amount of time available for rebel lawmakers to pass legislation to block  his government from pushing through an abrupt split from the EU.

The Queen has the constitutional duty of opening and closing Parliament.  I am stunned because I can't imagine the Queen could be placed in the position of basically making a no-deal Brexit happen or not.   Does she even have an option of saying no?

Boris seems to have as big of an ego and Trump.  What a huge power play.  Now a group of MP's have signed a document saying that such a move would be considered an undemocratic outrage. Another group is writing a law which would block  a no-deal Brexit.  

I think we are living in the Upside Down of Stranger Things myself.

 

Hopefully Corbyn can become PM or John McDonnell or something, at least the opposition parties are all talking and will do anything to stop No Deal Brexit. Looks like Corbyn may well be able to topple Johnson and get caretaker Government until an election.


   
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FWIW, I had an image of Boris Johnson suddenly engulfed in flames, starting with his pants, while people were laughing, then he was behind bars. Liar, liar, pants on fire! I don't think he'll last too long as PM. 


   
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Posted by: @pamp

FWIW, I had an image of Boris Johnson suddenly engulfed in flames, starting with his pants, while people were laughing, then he was behind bars. Liar, liar, pants on fire! I don't think he'll last too long as PM. 

I so hope you are right!


   
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@pamp

So does the leader of the liberal democrats become pm I don't think Corbyn is a very good choice as pm,he was quite bad at  the eu referendum.


   
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Oh dear, the Conservatives are trying to act like they are a new Government, trying to take a leaf out of Scott Morrison's book (Australian Prime Minister)


   
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Posted by: @dcd2510

Oh dear, the Conservatives are trying to act like they are a new Government, trying to take a leaf out of Scott Morrison's book (Australian Prime Minister)

I get a really bad feeling. They are trying to act moderate, they are trying to act like Austerity is over and people will be rewarded. Not happening.


   
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Back in 1999 i felt anger and war coming. i had seen the effects of the collapse of traditional communities in Manchester i.e. turning to drugs and the black market to survive. this spread to other regions. i came to nz 2 weeks before 911. i thought that is what i had picked up.  when i think of the uk i feel deep fear. but i also get a sense of the anglosaxon project has ended. the foreign policies that messed up others coming home to roost. empire messed their heads up this is the fallout. think italy in the 5th n 6th century. 

my first post. hope that works.

nice to be here. taken me too long.

peace. 


   
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(@lovendures)
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@broadbean

Welcome to our community.  Glad you have you join us.

Interesting that you felt what you did back in '99.  


   
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@broadbean

Love that you've joined us. We all take different paths to get here and even more complex ones to making the choice to post 

But gosh it's wonderful to have new people with added interests, lives, and knowledge bases to join us especially from outside of our often U.S.based focus and posts 

So welcome broadbean! May you grow,  prosper and live well and long among us ?


   
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Good morning,wondering if anyone has any insight on whats going to happen with this brexit mess? I don't even know how to formulate my question as things are changing by the hour. Can we be saved from this right wing government? 


   
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Hi

I threw some cards to see if there is any clarity. I use the Green Witch Tarot deck, I've left explainations beside each one. 

First question I asked was "what happens with the General Election?" I drew 2 cards: 

- Reversed 7 of chalices (cups) - daydreaming, pie in the sky, deception, confusion

- Reversed World Tree - Unresolved situation

On the whole I don't think a GE is going to resolve anything, if not create more confusion. 

 

Next question was "show me the next Prime Minister."  I drew 3 here. 

- The Lord of Lady - While I don't think there will be a female PM this card signifies for me a partnership  of some sort. 

- Reversed Queen of Chalices - Hard hearted,  not emotional, doesn't care about others feelings. 

- Reversed Nine of Athames (Swords) - Self doubt, dark night of the soul.  

Overall I don't think a GE is going to solve anything. If anything it will create more confusion, a hung parliament with a PM who doesn't know what to do or where to go to or stymied by a coalition.  .  All in all fog all around. Still nothing clear here in my visions' nor in the cards. 


   
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@celticwitch

Thank you I think it's very accurate. I wonder if there is a hope for a second referendum and if that would solve the deadlock. 


   
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@dina

So this happened when I asked about a People's Vote:

I went to spread the cards without shuffling them. (Not normal, I always shuffle)  To me this is a rush to get something done regardless of preparation or outcome. I then shuffled the cards and spread them to pick and some fell off the edge of the bed! (Falling off a cliff-edge?)

I always ask how many cards to pick I was told 3, 4 came out. They are: 

- Reversed Ace of Athames ( Swords ) : Inaction, obstacles

- Ten of Wands: Indecision, stumbling

- Reversed Knight of Wands: Disorganised, delays, losses

- The Oak King: (The Hanged Man):  Needs to take time to think about what it is they actually want. 

I then changed my wording to "show me a 2nd Brexit referedum" 

- Reversed Three of Wands:  Impractical, going nowhere

- The Moon: An illusion 

- Harvest: Results of hard work are shown (this should be a positive card abundance and joy,  but it seems oddly placed) I think it's more whatever the result will be now happy with the outcome. 

Reversed Star: This card when not Reversed is a positive card,  full of hope for the future and optimism. Unfortunately it's Reversed,  Indecision, doubt. 

As a psychic I can say that Brexit has been one of the worst times for seeing outcomes.  There's no clarity, in the cards, dreams or visions.  It's just a muddled mess. I do believe tho everything works in cycles. This is maybe the end of a cycle and the relationship with the EU needs to end. 


   
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OMG!  Have you heard what happened in the UK ????

OMG!!!

Boris Johnson was on Monday night accused of presiding over a cover-up after it emerged that No 10 refused to clear the publication of a potentially incendiary report examining Russian infiltration in British politics, including the Conservative party.

Downing Street indicated on Monday that it would not allow a 50-page dossier from the intelligence and security committee to be published before the election, prompting a string of complaints over its suppression.

The committee’s chairman, Dominic Grieve, called the decision “jaw dropping”, saying no reason for the refusal had been given, while Labour and Scottish National party politicians accused No 10 of refusing to recognise the scale of Russian meddling.

Fresh evidence has also emerged of attempts by the Kremlin to infiltrate the Conservatives by a senior Russian diplomat suspected of espionage, who spent five years in London cultivating leading Tories including Johnson himself.

OMG!  

More can be found below.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/04/no-10-blocks-russia-eu-referendum-report-until-after-election

https://www.euronews.com/2019/11/05/russian-meddling-in-british-politics-uk-government-denies-sitting-on-report


   
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So it turns out the UK is just as corrupt at the USA (probably more so)

details from the Russian infiltration in British politics have emerged in the Sunday Times newspaper today.

"Breaking - 9 Russian businessmen who gave money to the Conservative party are named in a secret intelligence report on the threats posed to UK democracy which was suppressed last week by Downing Street."

"Oligarchs and other wealthy Tory donors were included in the report on illicit Russian activities in Britain by the cross-party intelligence & security select committee (ISC), whose publication was blocked last week by No10."

"Some Russian donors are personally close to the prime minister, including Alexander Temerko, who had close links to the Kremlin’s defence industry, and who has spoken warmly of his “friend” Boris Johnson. He has donated over £1.2m to the Tories over the past 7 years."

"MPs on the intelligence committee were also briefed on concerns regarding Alexander Lebedev, the former KGB spy who was allowed to buy the London Evening Standard newspaper. Alexander’s son Evgeny has hosted prime minister Boris Johnson at his Italian estate near Perugia"

"When he was foreign secretary, Johnson travelled to the Lebedev’s Italian estate in April 2018 - apparently without the close protection police officers that normally accompany senior ministers of state. He was photographed by tourists at the local airport looking worse for wear."

"It is not known whether the Russian Tory donors are mentioned in main ISC report, or the classified annex. Britain’s intel agencies are understood to be “furious” at the failure to publish as all necessary steps to protect national security have been taken"

"No10’s argument that it needs more time to redact the intelligence report on Russian donors has been dismissed by the former head of MI5, the ex-cabinet secretary and a former national security adviser"

"Emily Thornberry, the shadow foreign secretary, said delay in publishing the intelligence report on Russian Tory donors was “utterly unjustifiable, unprecedented and clearly politically motivated”, adding: “What has Downing St got to hide?”"

"Thornberry also raised whistleblower claims re the years that Dominic Cummings, top adviser to Boris Johnson, spent in Russia in 1990s. Cummings allegedly met Vladislav Surkov, the “grey cardinal” of the Kremlin, who has close links to Russian intelligence"

Be under no illusion, Cummings was not in Russia to start an airline - that's just a cover story. He was there to receive training in how to subvert British Democracy.

 

Watch this:

https://youtu.be/Od4MWs7qTr8

 

 

 

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This is even worse than I thought when he was holding up the release.  

Simply stunning.  Where are people's sense of honor and ethics???


   
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Thank you for posting. Not surprised. Interesting that it happened with two topmost heads of state  that have dyed blond mop hairdos and are both ignorant, foolish, narcissistic men.


   
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I recently came across some extremely interesting information about a Russian geopolitical book which apparently  is influential on the Russian military, police and elite, including Putin. Here are links if anyone wants to read about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/1990s-manifesto-outlining-russias-plans-is-starting-to-come-true/news-story/343a27c71077b87668f1aa783d03032c

https://www.hoover.org/research/russias-new-and-frightening-ism

Why I'm posting this here is that it talks about a goal of cutting off the UK from the EU. If you think about all the Russian shenanegans we now know about, such as them influencing in social media to cause division and stoke the flames of anti-EU sentiment, the connections with people like Boris and other parties in the UK, this current information posted about Boris and Russian donations seems even more significant and alarming. What better way to do it than encourage and manoeuvre us into Brexit?...

(There's also goals regarding weakening the US too).

 

 


   
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It seems like Putin is currently winning cold war II with no consequences.


   
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@stu

No, he is not winning. He's creating disruption but it's not going to last. And he's succeeded in activating a huge network of Lightworkers who will strengthen the light in this world against the agents of darkness. He is actually a very small man.


   
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