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(@villager)
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@Baba, my understanding is that votes cast on election day are counted first, followed immediately by early votes. Overseas  and postal votes have another 2 weeks to arrive at the Australia Election Commission for counting. There is more detail on the AEC's website

Also, there were a number of reports of concerted attempts to mislead voters, as well as breaches of electoral law. Both occurred online as well as offline.

There are also some questions about how one (some would say disgraced) billionaire campaigned. Although he didn't win a seat, there are questions about whether or not the preferences he gave to the liberal party are some sort of quid pro quo. His party ended up with no seats but 3.4% of the vote.

@Ernie, I agree with you. In recent times Labor has come across as a fence sitter while in opposition. It sided with or was silent on the worst liberal policies (offshore detention, increased surveillance of citizens, multinational tax avoidance). It was hard to discern what set of values the party had. That said it has been progressive in its proposed policies during the campaign.

I wonder if the work labor did federally between elections just wasn't enough to convince the population that change (and the uncertainty that comes with it) was worth it. In contrast, the Victorian state labor government had a highly visible, effective track record and won in a landslide late last year. 

I believe it is a shame because some of labor's policies would have gone some way towards addressing the "discord with the ancient spiritual energy of the continent" that you pointed out.


   
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@villager , agreeing that a labor government would do much better for Australia in the current circumstances, an election means that many factors come together and determine the result. So usually it's not just one of them explaining the reason behind this result. I think that Labor's communication strategies and means were really out of date and wrong. It was not the context of their rethoric, it was the way they (couldn't) communicate it . And changing the pr company won't help on its own : Labor needs new and much more contemporary leaders with much more modern skills. These probably would have to be from outside the club of buddies at the very top of the party who seem a bit old fashioned. Young people seem to be reluctant to vote in this country and this is the only way Labor can catch up with them - by understanding what "modern left" is. Long way to go.


   
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So, what do people think of Australian politics now? I personally feel sad and angry, but also hope, hope for a Genuine Centre-left Corbyn style economics here.


   
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Hi all, what are people's thoughts on The respective political parties? Also, what do you think Will happen in the next NZ Election next year?


   
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Greens leader Richard Di Natale has resigned as leader and will resign from the senate within months. He wants to spend more time with his children.


   
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Oh, I believe Baba predicted this for June here in Australia: "Leadership spill in Australia." I wonder what party that will be. Does anyone have any thoughts on what this could mean?


   
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@dcd2510  Thanks for noticing this vision.  Please post this in the Timeline Predictions Hits (first topic) section and explain what is going on in Australia that this prediction might be about. Thanks


   
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Hi all. Does anyone have any predictions for when the next federal election will be held? It can be held between the 7th of August 2021 and the 21st of May 2022.

Also, I have had an inreresting dream within the last few months. I told myself to dream of the next federal Election results. I then asked the universe to show me some signs. I then dreamt of it. It showed me the ABC's (Public broadcaster) Australia Votes coverage. The Coalition of the Liberals and Nationals won again. Not by a huge amount, but with a slightly increased majority. Additionally, the Greens had a reasonable night. They grew their vote and seat share. The Labor party was left upset at the election results.


   
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Hi guys,

Now that we have hit 2022 and I am assuming the election will be likely to be closer to May than March. If the mood should take you would anyone have any thoughts on what may be the outcome.

I won’t mention what I would like to have happen.

Regards to all


   
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Well Australia has changed government. Labor is in, the counting is still ongoing because of postal votes etc. for the first time nearly half of the voting public voted early either pre poll or postal. So don’t know if they will have a majority or it will be a minority government and will need the cross bench to pass legislation. Both major parties lost primary votes and it now looks like we have a third group made up of greens and independents. The worst hit group was the liberals. 

climate change is now front and centre as the item to be tackled, as well as an integrity commission for federal politics, aged care and Medicare, environment and economy. The Teal independents who got in are all women who campaigned on climate change and an integrity commission. A surprise was the Greens have won seats in Queensland a very conservative state.  

So am feeling hopefull

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(@luminous)
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@matildagirl well done to you Australians, you managed to beat the Murdoch media and all his cronies. I know they tried to throw everything at Labor in trying to keep Scott Morrison in power. You are now free. I am so happy for you.

Hopefully one day in the future, the UK will follow Australia's example.

 


   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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Australia shocker news this morning -- that while he was the country's Prime Minister, (he was voted out last May), Scott Morrison had secretly  sworn himself in as a second health minister, finance minister, resources minister, and home affairs minister, along with appointing himself co-treasurer. And he kept his new roles a secret from the public and most of his colleagues in Parliament.

How could the people have not known this was happening?  I find this disturbing, that such a move went unknown all this time.   

I also think of how Donald Trump had so many unfilled department heads in our government during his administration. His appointees kept leaving.  At one point we had an extraordinary list of "acting" department heads. But that situation is not the same as the situation in Australia.  

So back to my question: How did Australian's not know? 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/08/16/world/secret-powers-an-australian-prime-minister-now-revealed/?

 


   
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(@matildagirl)
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@jeanne-mayell 

Hi Jeanne, it’s all a bit bizarre

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/17/ten-glaring-inconsistencies-in-scott-morrisons-bamboozling-press-conference

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-17/what-powers-did-scott-morrison-secretly-give-himself/101341276

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-17/scott-morrison-secret-ministry-appointments-who-knew-timeline/101337414

Some more information on Scott Morrison appointing himself to ministries. 

The first one was Health and he did discuss this with the Health Minister. This was during the Covid lockdown and his reasoning I gather was in case the Health Minister got Covid and decisions needed to be made. The others were at different times and he didn’t mention it to the various Ministers. It was done legally through The Governor General, it is the secrecy and the why. He overrode one Ministers decision just before the election because he thought it would harm their chances in the election. Personally glad he did as it was for gas exploration in the ocean just off the area I live in along the whale migration route. The seismic activity would interfere with the whales.

One of the odd things he and the Treasurer at the time were living together in The Lodge during our Covid lockdown and never mentioned it to him that he held the portfolio as well.

He is still a member of Parliament not sure whether he will resign or stay on the back bench. 

Life keeps on being interesting.

Regards to all


   
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(@matildagirl)
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@jeanne-mayell Hi Jeanne, further to your post on Scott Morrison taking on ministries in secret. There has been an inquiry regarding it and the new government is going to put into law the recommendations from the Justice Bell report and they are also going to put a censure motion to Parliament against him.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-28/censure-motion-scott-morrison-parliament-go-ahead/101705568

Regards

Matildagirl


   
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