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09/03/2019 2:22 am  

I live in Astralia since some years now and my connection to the country is getting stronger every day. When I put some concentrated insight to sense energy and collective movement I encounter :

1- A resistance, almost a fear of change influencing every aspect of life. Rejection to innovation. And My visions show me blank sun chakras everywhere - not for every individual though.

2- A discord with the ancient spiritual energy of the continent ( maybe in accordance with what I wrote above ) causing delays and lots of emotional search.

I see Australia as a very young girl trying to figure out her unique identity therfore in need for safety.

I don't get the feeling much progress will happen in short time regarding all the homework being discussed right now ... But I get the feeling of a very bright future that is so different than the the future of the rest of the world. A bit of an ambigious insight maybe ...

 

 


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15/03/2019 12:55 pm  

Posts on New Zealand's terrorist attack have been moved to a new thread for New Zealand. https://www.jeannemayell.com/community/international-predictions/new-zealand/#post-10367


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29/03/2019 9:40 am  

Hi, I just wanted to ask if anyone could take a look at Senator Jordon Steele-John and see how he will do in politics? Also, this is the video of him winning the McKinnon Prize for emerging leader. https://www.facebook.com/JordonSteeleJohn/videos/277750666450417/

Senator Steele-John is Australia's 2nd ever Senator with a physical disability. (Cerebral Palsy) And is the youngest Senator ever.

What do you think of the video, and what do you think about his political future.


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18/05/2019 7:47 am  

The Liberals have won here in Australia, this was unexpected.


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18/05/2019 8:23 am  

Headline for Australian election is that Labor (the progressive party) lost an "Unlosable" election to the controversial and unpopular Liberal (conservative) incumbent party. 

One has to wonder how this happened.  Were there shenanigans involved?  

My gut says there were cyber tricks underlying this result. It may not be enough to form a government since their system is different than in the U.S.

Baba called a likely Liberal Party (conservative) incumbent win  back in January with her cards:

I also threw a card each for the Labor party (the progressives) and the Liberals (the conservatives) at the time of the election:

Labor - Seven of Cups reversed which I understood as meaning making the right, if difficult choice for the people.

The Liberals - the Strength card - endurance and power

Personally, I thought that Labor has a good chance of winning the next elections after the shenanigans that have gone on under the Liberals government. On the other hand, I have never felt that Bill Shorten had the charisma to mobilize all  the people in support of him. The cards seem to make it seem that it is not a foregone conclusion that Lanor will win. Nothing is set in stone, so there is still time for things to change. --Baba, 1/1/19

Any thoughts? 

Baba, I hope you will weigh in for U.S. Nov 2020 election. 


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18/05/2019 8:50 am  

I got the feeling earlier today before the polls closed when I was looking at the reporting on the election that it might be in some ways a similar outcome of the US midterms in that there are a lot of early votes still to be counted and it may not be the clear victory that the Liberals are trying to portray at the moment. There may be a situation of no one party getting enough seats to rule alone. Time will tell and it will be interesting to watch. 

I will have a look at the 2020 US election when I am in the right headspace. I threw cards on Barr and Mueller this morning and was a little disturbed by them (which may just be a reflection of my lack of interpretation skills at tarot!)


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18/05/2019 9:46 am  

Baba, I understand how important your headspace is for doing a reading. I also threw cards on Barr and Mueller and it got really messy. I still haven't posted my reading. Coming soon.


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18/05/2019 10:09 am  
Posted by: Jeanne Mayell

Baba, I understand how important your headspace is for doing a reading. I also threw cards on Barr and Mueller and it got really messy. I still haven't posted my reading. Coming soon.

You also predicted the Liberals would win Jeanne. Can someone see what will happen as to who will become Labor Leader? And Greens too, please? Also, Can someone see about an MP called Ged Kearney? Also, will Labor move to the left and go back to their roots similar to how Jeremy Corbyn has taken UK Labour back? What is in store for The Greens?


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18/05/2019 10:34 am  

Thanks DcD2510, I went back and yes, saw I'd seen this: The progressives will be whipped harshly by those in power but the progressives will not stand for it.  Ultimately it looks like a woman, hopefully she's a progressive, will be in charge. -- Jeanne Mayell

So who is this woman?  DcD2510, I just finished diving into the shark tank of Barr, Mueller, and Trump's thoughts today and have no more bandwidth to read another thing for a while. Have to get out and feel the beautiful day and regain my whole self.  

We are in a battle all over the globe right now.  Ultimately humanity will win. But in the short term, all I can see is a blinding storm of forces fighting for power. Praying for love and peace. Will set up another Circle of Light evening very soon. 


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18/05/2019 8:18 pm  

Jeanne, I'd been wondering the same thing about cyber shenanigans in Australia.  I keep hoping that if there was hacking, etc, it would be discovered and somehow lead to the unraveling of the cyber stuff here in the US so we can have safe and fair elections.


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18/05/2019 10:10 pm  
Posted by: Jeanne Mayell

Thanks DcD2510, I went back and yes, saw I'd seen this: The progressives will be whipped harshly by those in power but the progressives will not stand for it.  Ultimately it looks like a woman, hopefully she's a progressive, will be in charge. -- Jeanne Mayell

So who is this woman?  DcD2510, I just finished diving into the shark tank of Barr, Mueller, and Trump's thoughts today and have no more bandwidth to read another thing for a while. Have to get out and feel the beautiful day and regain my whole self.  

We are in a battle all over the globe right now.  Ultimately humanity will win. But in the short term, all I can see is a blinding storm of forces fighting for power. Praying for love and peace. Will set up another Circle of Light evening very soon. 

Well, Tanya Plibersk is considering running for ALP leadership, but she is soft left.


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19/05/2019 4:44 am  

I don't think the Australian situation is due to digital fraud. It is a genuine situation created by many layers. I don't see any changes in the short term but I do see them. Consensus is very important in Australia and that will come soon especially as the reality about climate change shows its face in a more drastic way.

I agree with what Jeanne says, it is a planetary phenomenon and we all should first try to understand our own roles in it, locally.

However, we are also planetary beings so communication with people and realities beyond our own geographic area becomes also vital. They are all subject to the same phenomena we also are. But are representatives of the varying symptoms caused by that pehnomena. Lots to learn.

 


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19/05/2019 7:08 am  
Posted by: Ernie

I don't think the Australian situation is due to digital fraud. It is a genuine situation created by many layers. I don't see any changes in the short term but I do see them. Consensus is very important in Australia and that will come soon especially as the reality about climate change shows its face in a more drastic way.

I agree with what Jeanne says, it is a planetary phenomenon and we all should first try to understand our own roles in it, locally.

However, we are also planetary beings so communication with people and realities beyond our own geographic area becomes also vital. They are all subject to the same phenomena we also are. But are representatives of the varying symptoms caused by that pehnomena. Lots to learn.

 

I think The Left needs to move to the centre-left, instead of being centrist or centre-right. Do you agree? Does anyone see this happening, or will Labor move to the right?


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19/05/2019 7:26 am  

@Baba, your words about the Australian election results resonate with me. I was thinking earlier today about how similar the media reaction is to the aftermath of the midterm election in the US. The Liberal party (who are conservatives) will form a minority government, but no one has won a clear majority yet, and this election was different to previous elections in some ways. For example, more than 4 million people voted early. This is a record. I don't know what the impact of early votes could be, but things might look slightly better in the coming weeks.

Barack Obama's words after losing the election to Bobby Rush keep popping into my head: 'it shouldn't be too easy'. I feel as though despite a long reign of neoliberal government, Australia as a whole isn't feeling enough discomfort yet to want change. I am not claiming that some people aren't suffering. They are. Inequality is rising, climate change is hurting communities, malaise in the economy is hurting working Australians and those seeking work. But it is still too easy to ignore those who fall through the gaps.

It is striking how many seats have been retained. Any changes that have occurred are subtle (with the exception of a neo-liberal former prime minister losing his seat). Even the low percentage of women in parliament is projected to be the same (around 28%)!

I feel as though the message is that change will have to start locally with actual long-term, grassroots engagement. Once that is happens on a broader scale, challengers to the Liberal party might be more successful. Perhaps even in three years time.


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19/05/2019 8:49 am  

Hi All,

I will be interested to see what the final tally is in the election. Does anyone know if they count the early voting ballots with the tallies on the day or are they counted afterwards? I asked a family member who lives there what they thought of the election and if they noticed any shady business going on and they anecdotally mentioned that the Liberals put up posters in purple and white (the colors are those used by the electoral commission) in Chinese giving instructions about how to fill out their ballots. I think it was thought to be ethically questionable but not illegal because the electoral commission doesn’t own the colors per se. 

I wonder what effect compulsory voting has on the elections in Australia vs non-compulsory voting in the US? I am guessing that overall participation is higher in Australia. The systems are not identical though and I have the impression that the preferences used in voting can sometimes skew the results a bit in Australian elections. Every system has its particularities! 

I will try to have a look at a few of the questions posed on here within the next few days - including Ged Kearney and a few others. I will let you know what I come up with. It just helps to have a bit of quiet and space to be able to think clearly. 


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20/05/2019 9:15 am  
Posted by: Baba

Hi All,

I will be interested to see what the final tally is in the election. Does anyone know if they count the early voting ballots with the tallies on the day or are they counted afterwards? I asked a family member who lives there what they thought of the election and if they noticed any shady business going on and they anecdotally mentioned that the Liberals put up posters in purple and white (the colors are those used by the electoral commission) in Chinese giving instructions about how to fill out their ballots. I think it was thought to be ethically questionable but not illegal because the electoral commission doesn’t own the colors per se. 

I wonder what effect compulsory voting has on the elections in Australia vs non-compulsory voting in the US? I am guessing that overall participation is higher in Australia. The systems are not identical though and I have the impression that the preferences used in voting can sometimes skew the results a bit in Australian elections. Every system has its particularities! 

I will try to have a look at a few of the questions posed on here within the next few days - including Ged Kearney and a few others. I will let you know what I come up with. It just helps to have a bit of quiet and space to be able to think clearly. 

Thank you. I also agree with Villager, change takes time.


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21/05/2019 12:30 am  

DcD2510, I agree with you. They won't convince anybody or win anything if they go more to the right. Another very important issue about the Labor party is the fact that they urgently need to update their communication means and strategies. They look and sound like a party from the 70s - Young people find them outdated. I saw many election campaigns around the world but have rarely seen one as reluctant as this one. They can't talk to the young people, can't find a convincing way to communicate their policies and campaign promises, couldn't stress out the reality and urgency of climate change in Australia. And did not create excitement. It is a good thing that Shorten resigned in the end. Think he should have done it long ago.

What I "see" is that they will HAVE TO move more left (green?) in the future if they want to carry the Labor Party to the 21st century. After a substantial change in the team that runs Labor. Will take time to mend the disappoinment. They don't know how to do it yet.


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21/05/2019 2:47 am  
Posted by: Ernie

DcD2510, I agree with you. They won't convince anybody or win anything if they go more to the right. Another very important issue about the Labor party is the fact that they urgently need to update their communication means and strategies. They look and sound like a party from the 70s - Young people find them outdated. I saw many election campaigns around the world but have rarely seen one as reluctant as this one. They can't talk to the young people, can't find a convincing way to communicate their policies and campaign promises, couldn't stress out the reality and urgency of climate change in Australia. And did not create excitement. It is a good thing that Shorten resigned in the end. Think he should have done it long ago.

What I "see" is that they will HAVE TO move more left (green?) in the future if they want to carry the Labor Party to the 21st century. After a substantial change in the team that runs Labor. Will take time to mend the disappoinment. They don't know how to do it yet.

If LAbor doesn't move to the left, should the left get behind other parties like The Greens? Also: https://tribunemag.co.uk/2019/05/australian-labors-miliband-moment  


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21/05/2019 7:16 am  

 DcD2510, Labor can't leave center left - most of its votes are there. So everything depends on a consensus on solutions and values. It may try to harbor a wing that is more left. We'll see. What I feel is that it is going to take some time and a lot of effort but they will succeed to consolidate.


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21/05/2019 8:24 am  
Posted by: Ernie

 DcD2510, Labor can't leave center left - most of its votes are there. So everything depends on a consensus on solutions and values. It may try to harbor a wing that is more left. We'll see. What I feel is that it is going to take some time and a lot of effort but they will succeed to consolidate.

Labor is not centre-left, they are centrist at best. Jeremy Corbyn style policies are centre-left.


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