Australia Political Situation

DcD2510, I want to welcome you to our forum.  Hoping someone will help out with your questions. I'm sorry to say that I  know nothing, nada, about Australian politics - and that's my bad because Australia is important on the world stage. 

But I can’t resist giving it a try. I threw cards and saw that mid year there will be much strife and angry discourse among politicians and talking heads there over what is going on.  

The progressives will be whipped harshly by those in power but the progressives will not stand for it.  Ultimately it looks like a woman, hopefully she's a progressive, will be in charge. 

I defer to anyone who knows more about this situation.  It seems to be a theme in world politics these days with a tug of war between conservative and progressives. And it's just as contentious in Australia as it is in the US. 

Thank you, Jeanne. What your cards showed up are interesting, in many ways our Liberal (Conservative, with some small l liberals.) Party has moved further and further to the right. Our Labor (Used to be Social Democratic/Democratic Socialist but is more third way, with a membership and support base that is the former and leadership who are the latter.) Party has been in opposition for 5 years, with the same leader, Bill Shorten. Labor is expected to win the federal election in March-may, mostly because the Liberal party had a Leadership spill and that gave us our 3rd Prime Minister who is Liberal. There is The Greens, who hold one lower house seat and 9 Senate seats. Whether the uprising is from more moderate people in the Liberal party or from the more Progressive members of the Labor party will be interesting.

Thank you for joining in DcD2510. Please continue to write, join in, explain your country and its and your world views 

We are all striving to learn, to include,  and to help anyone, anywhere and everywhere that we can.

It's wonderful to meet you.

Jeanne  is your psychic friend who used to write you from Australia with her intuitions still in contact?  I remember some of her predictions from 2 years ago as being very powerful. 

The Australian psychic still writes to me including just the other day.  She seems to be uncomfortable posting though.

Thank you, Michele, for welcoming me.

You're very welcome DcD2510. We truly need to focus on the bigger picture and how we are all inter-connected.

I love our input from Canada, the U.K, and France. We needed you among us.

And anyone else reading here, please chime in and let us know where you might live!

Hi, I just threw a few cards regarding the upcoming election in Australia. We lived there for many years, still have family there and I still feel a connection to the country. Nice to see someone on the forum from there! 

So, I concentrated on the election and threw a card for Tanya Plibersek (currently deputy to Bill Shorten who is the head of the Labor party), and got Nine of Wands reversed which I understood as her struggling to keep up the fight or her perception of lack of support from those around her. I chose to throw a card for her as I considered her a possibility to take over for Bill Shorten at some point. 

The next card that I drew was for Bill Shorten (current head of the Labor party and head of the shadow cabinet) and it was 10 of Cups reversed. I understood this to mean that he will have a hard time uniting his party. Consensus will be difficult. 

I drew a card for Julie Bishop (of the Liberal Party) as she was always, if nothing else, a visible and charismatic person who served as the Foreign Minister and Deputy Leader of the Liberals. I drew the Devil card for her. I understood this to mean that she is very motivated by material things (no surprise there if you have ever seen her in pictures) and that she is still angry about the recent leadership spill and may have plans to try to achieve more personal power again.

I also threw a card each for the Labor party and the Liberals at the time of the election:

Labor - Seven of Cups reversed which I understood as meaning making the right, if difficult choice for the people.

The Liberals - the Strength card - endurance and power

Personally, I thought that Labor has a good chance of winning the next elections after the shenanigans that have gone on under the Liberals government. On the other hand, I have never felt that Bill Shorten had the charisma to mobilize all  the people in support of him. The cards seem to make it seem that it is not a foregone conclusion that Lanor will win. Nothing is set in stone, so there is still time for things to change. 

I’m happy to hear other’s interpretations of the above. I am still learning. 

All the best and Happy New Year to all!

Thank you Baba. I found it interesting how you said that Labor could be making some of the right choices. Do you see anything regarding a possible Progressive movement here in Australia? I would be interested also in The Greens, and how they will do next year and what they are facing.

Hi Dc,  Unfortunately, I don’t know anything about how the progressive movement is developing at the moment in Australia. After the current Liberal government, I would expect the pendulum to swing back more in a progressive direction though. It is probably going to take some time and will depend on how world events influence what is going on in Australia. I did throw a couple of cards regarding the Greens. I asked how the Green Party would fare in the next election and got the Four of Wands reversed which I understood to indicate a lack of cohesiveness in the party. Maybe they are having trouble trying to decide between trying to appeal to a larger segment of the population vs staying true to their ideals. I also threw a card for Sarah Hanson-Young (since she is a well-known member of the party) asking how she would fare after the next election and got the Knight of Cups. I think that bodes well for her. It points to her idealism and commitment to doing positive things. Independent of that, I get the feeling that her star is on the rise. 

As I am still learning, if anyone has anything to add or any other interpretations, I would be happy to hear them. 

Thank you Baba, that is very interesting, and I will say as a Green, there are some splits, the split is mainly middle/upper class economic conservatives and social progressives, middle class Economic Progressives and social progressives, and low-income Economic Progressives and Social Progressives, I am one of the low-income people.

Also, I think a lot of the lack of cohesiveness is our messaging, for example, many people want us to drop some of the more Bourgeoise elements of our policies to have wider appeal.

There was a big Far-Right march in St. Kilda in Melbourne, on the beach yesterday. Senator Fraser Anning who is racist attended using taxpayer funds. Lot's of people were doing Nazi salutes and displayed Nazi paraphernalia. On the news people who opposed those Nazis were called far-left. I am unsure what will happen with all this, but hope it doesn't get really bad.

I think this is what you were referring to:  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-06/scott-morrison-condemns-ugly-racial-protests-at-st-kilda/10687638

I don’t understand why they don’t censure the MP who attended in parliament and I don’t understand how he got away with charging the taxpayers with his travel costs. The only way that he will be held accountable is if there is a strong enough outcry from the public. 

Posted by: Baba

I think this is what you were referring to:  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-06/scott-morrison-condemns-ugly-racial-protests-at-st-kilda/10687638

I don’t understand why they don’t censure the MP who attended in parliament and I don’t understand how he got away with charging the taxpayers with his travel costs. The only way that he will be held accountable is if there is a strong enough outcry from the public. 

Yes it is, and I agree, they need to at least condemn him and say they won't accept his vote.

Thank you DcD2025 and Baba for your ongoing discussion.

While many of us here in the U.S. sadly lack understandings of other countries policies, politics and political personalities in power or seeking control and power, we can all relate to such incredibly universal issues and problems.

I'm so glad this discussion was started!!

Hello Michelle

re the political situation in Australia - well really the mind boggles trying to fathom it all out.  As everywhere else.

 For interest and alternative views and a good lot of humor update yourself with reading www.australiaindependent.net

Check who sends shivers up your spine or warm fuzzies, the vibes we all need.

Until all politicians can put their egos in their back pockets , close their wallets, (the world over) then somehow acquire a great deal of integrity and and loving kindness , humans are pawns, dispatchable, end of story.

Or 'till hell freezes over' as the saying goes

Maybe the next 300 years if we are lucky. Humans have a big hurdle to get past as we see the birth pangs now stirring.

Humor is essential for us all so as not to sink into the quick sand.

If reincarnation bears weight, maybe some of us will return to witness the Golden Age as in some scriptures or we see from afar.

But for now we have only our intuition to guide us.

Belated Happy New Year

Welcome Anon,

I did enjoy the article on the photoshop fail where Scott Morrison ended up with two left feet.

I think it took a keener eye to spot that, they say Beyonce's 3 legs where they tried to claim it was a trick of the eye due a fold in her dress. Ha! All I could see was that leg!

But you're so right, we truly do need a good sense of humor and happiness and laughter to get through the day. It's why we love photos and stories that make us laugh, lighten our hearts, and fill us with hope.

One of the things we talk about here is the fluidity of time, of fate, and of our predictions and why they can be seen or felt by so many of us in different ways and then suddenly change course. 

And because of these anomalies ...not just in quantum physics but in human consciousness and how we have been feeling a speeding up of time (I talked about it with friends in the mid 1990s but now its more like a bullet train verging on supersonic) I always have hope. And I know you do, too!

You have a great sense of fun, of humor, and your post was filled with light hearted fun.

So, hang on to all of that and please do chime in again. And Happy New Year to you, as well...emphasis on the Happy. Good for all of our souls ☀️

Hi All,

I just saw this article about Julie Bishop not standing for re-election for parliament in the following:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-21/even-in-her-exit,-bishop-sends-a-message-and-makes-her-mark/10834582

I looked back at the tarot card that I drew for her at the beginning of the year - the Devil. I guess she was really angry and fed up after the leadership spill. The article discusses the how her final speech to the parliament did not match up with the symbolism that she was presenting with her appearance and her sensitivity to that due to her studying the work of Madeline Albright. My guess is that she will now go into industry as a consultant and build her wealth. 

Hi all, Celebrity Human Rights Lawyer Julian Burnside is running for The Greens in the inner Melbourne seat of Kooyong, he is running on the issue of Refugees and how badly Australia treats them, along with Climate Change, and also getting big money out of politics, he has signalled The Greens will seek to improve whoever wins Government's Climate Change policy and fight for other issues, and then be willing to compromise to get something done. He has received over $76,000 AUD in donations. This is quite a lot for a single seat, with no corporate donations, and it is also less than 24 hours since the announcement. Julian is a lifelong local in Kooyong, where the Liberals have always held the seat, but has been becoming more marginal. What are your thoughts?