What News We Read, Listen To and Trust- and maybe shouldn't!  

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(@michele-b-here-in-the-forum)
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06/09/2019 9:15 am  

Since well before the last election, we all begin to experience and to learn that much of the media was so caught up in the facts, stories, and statistics that they wanted to believe was "real" and trustworthy, that almost everyone missed the boat of awareness of America's and Americans true "hopes and dreams" about the future we wanted to see, and frankly the power we thought we deserved.

It was a rude awakening to discover that not only were major intuitive predictions wrong about our 2016 election, but that the best analytical prognosticators and statisticians and their sites were as well.

Those of us on social media went through huge challenges and even lost long time friends because we were getting our news from vastly different sources. (note Laura F.s topic on metacognition and extremism)

It started hard discussions as we all gently provided our own information and voiced disagreements to name calling of people in power and eventually, each other.  

I all but left social media after trying my best to affect change by opening hearts and minds.

I don't want that experience to carry over to this site that brought me so many new online friends and kindred spirits. But as far back as December during a post group chat, I told Jeanne I forsaw it happening here. I gently ask that we take a look at ourselves before it happens.

The developers have already changed our "popularity" ratings based on how much we visit and post. Talking a lot doesn't make me trustworthy. I always talk too much. And often write far too much 😉

Hard work and wise thinking and an open and loving heart are my goals.  Your comments warm my spirit not my stars and eventually numbers of medallions!  They're for show to encourage us to post more and more by ratings algorithms and beyond Jeanne's control. Thanks, Jeanne for your original explanations on that change. I felt vastly better about the change. But to point out the silliness of ratings, why doesn't  Jeanne get at least a shield when she deserves a trophy? Algorithms prevail in this digitally mastered and controlled world. And we are all part of that collective.

And no doubt my newsfeed algorithms work pretty much the same way!

But as I read too much celebrity or royal news gossip (usually fake in my opinion of course) or news, I can see my own as well as all of our selective choices and references swaying. And I am guilty as anyone else and that makes me sad but also more aware.

In order to find post links I've sunk to google news on my search engine page (I  only type on my mobile phone) and noticed lately absolutely ridiculous stories at the top of the new feed from sources I'd never even heard of!

The end of the world of our planet due to our suns complete burnout which of course could happen but billions of years away drew my attention immediately! I actually clicked on it to guesstimate its fake appeal factor. Sucked right by my click! Its all about ratings and popular posts and watching sites counts go up 

So, I ask and lets be honest, what news sources do you most often click on without even thinking? I love royal photos, celebrity homes, events, and new babies to famous people, sigh. Also anything with animals in the news.

I just deleted all of my favorites from my apps on my phone.

What do you read and what is good and not so good about it?What suckers you in (darn it, those People Magazine teasers!) and what have you deleted or unsubscribed from?

I know I'm not alone. What draws you in, what do you trust and  be honest, if you make a statement here about anyone (or their wives or children or how they live or who they fought with over whatever) do you check your source?

I love to check things on Politico or from the Pew Research Team. Are they still high in the ratings or not?

Tell my your news sources and give me a chuckle over the sites you wished you'd never clicked on.

Then read Pews interesting articles on on our most interesting habits and patterns.

https://www.pewresearch.org/category/publications/

 

Love, light, and healing prayers,
💜 MIchele


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06/09/2019 10:07 am  

Hello there. I've been following this forum for quite a while and have been shy about posting, but this issue is one I think about a great deal because I teach critical thinking and information literacy.

It would be so nice if we could just tune into certain sources and just trust what they have to say, but there is nothing without bias, even from respectable, even-handed journalists and periodicals. Often the bias is a matter of what stories they choose to tell--what they focus on and what they ignore--even more than the particular slants that affect how they construct their narratives. For example, we are only now getting stories in mainstream media about our environmental crisis. There may have been greater urgency to act long ago if things had been reported differently (or at all). Even with quality journalism we need to step back and consider what stories are not being told, whose voices are being ignored, and what/whose agenda may be served.

That said, I do not have cable TV and I find the mode of discourse on the TV news networks to be loaded with punditry, much of which tries to provoke outrage (even CNN and MSNBC). There's a terrific documentary called The Brainwashing of My Dad that takes a close look at how right wing media in particular has affected people and one of the strategies of Fox News was to agitate viewers in a way that became addictive--with an explanation of the neurological response to those repeated triggers. When I do catch these shows in public places, I see similar mechanisms at work--it is kind of like viewers get worked up feeling "Yes, that's AWFUL" and somehow are wired to keep coming back for more of the drama. I suppose something similar might happen via written text, especially with the more provocative sites that make videos and use lots of images, but generally when we are reading text we're less susceptible to that kind of manipulation. 

Sorry that I haven't actually answered the post yet! While I always keep one critical eye open, I do listen to some NPR in the car. I appreciate that they offer different points of view and are generally low-drama in their presentation. But even that I can't do every day, largely because there's just too much focus on the orange goblin king in the media and I cannot stand to see him or hear his voice. 

The Guardian is one I follow online for their focus on environmental issues, and they even address the importance of how we talk about these issues: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/24/media-outlets-guardian-reconsider-language-climate

Democracy Now is pretty biased (anti-corporate) and before the 2016 election I wearied of their focus on digging up dirt on Hillary--it seemed like they were too intent and fixated on that to the neglect of plenty of other stories that might have been told. What I like about Democracy now is that you do get stories and voices that you would not get in mainstream media: missing and murdered indigenous women, transgender rights; they were present at Standing Rock before other media, and they've done some good reporting about the crisis on the border. But again, I do not "tune in" regularly to them.

It seems like remaining present in the moment and connected to your senses, to nature, to your relationships, to community--the world that is happening around us--is essential to balance out the constant drone of media we are inundated with. And that's part of why I check in here--it is a counterpoint to that noise. I also have some literary and artistic people I follow to help me stay soul-centered. Rebecca Solnit writes about the environment, about women's/LGBTQ/Human rights, and, so importantly, about HOPE. On facebook she posts not just critiques of the inequities and crises at hand, but articles that show positive actions people are taking to foster good. We should not ignore this nightmare happening in our country, especially the pain being suffered by those who are most vulnerable right now, but we also need to tune into other frequencies and stories, especially from the spiritual and natural world. ❤️ 

 


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06/09/2019 11:06 am  

Here are two links to two wonderful resources that intersect with spirituality and the environment:

Emergence Magazine: https://emergencemagazine.org/

For the Wild Podcast: http://forthewild.world/ (This one always makes me think of the predictions about youth doing great things to restore balance in the world.)


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06/09/2019 9:53 pm  

Welcome herondreams!

I am so happy and grateful that you joined us and wrote such a great response.

This is more than I hoped to encourage from our group and I truly hope others will chime in.

All I could do was smile with delight reading each and every sentence you wrote. 

Its just what we needed to hear and from one quite wonderful new source...you!

Please continue to join in. I could not be happier you were moved to join and to join in to this complicated but so needed  conversation.

As long as you are signed in and the site's time limit isn't up for edits, there is an edit button always at the bottom of the texting box. 

I write completely on a cell phone...not only no cable tv at my house either,  but no wifi anymore. I edit my typos over and over until I've finally corrected as many as I can as quickly as I can but I still lose my edit button frequently on my very often very long posts trying my best to be relatable in one way or another to so many.

I am so glad it connected with you and brought you into this forum and especially this topic! 

 

 

 

Love, light, and healing prayers,
💜 MIchele


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06/10/2019 11:55 am  

herondreams - thanks for your post!

Where can we view the documentary you mentioned?


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06/10/2019 12:22 pm  

Thanks Laura F. 

For those of you who've already noticed that herondreams included two links, the one that Laura is most likely alluding to dif not (at least immediately) show up in a search.

Instead,  the google search/chrome search brought up this site/herondream's post instead. In other words a U-turn return 😉 

However, on my second attempt it worked perfectly Laura! It requires a subscription I believe but the site itself leads me to believe it might be worth a donation/sunscription to read podcasts.

And the noth linked sites are awesome! 

Here are two links to two wonderful resources that intersect with spirituality and the environment: Emergence Magazine: https://emergencemagazine.org/ For the Wild Podcast: http://forthewild.world/ (This one always makes me think of the predictions about youth doing great things to restore balance in the world.)

Love, light, and healing prayers,
💜 MIchele


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06/10/2019 2:53 pm  

I love the warmth and support in this group. ❤️ 

The documentary The Brainwashing of My Dad is on Amazon (included with Prime) & may be available other places. 

I've been able to read Emergence without a donation. They have a unique, multi-modal platform, with audio recordings read by the writers, video and other interactive visuals in addition to written text. You can also find the audio recordings in Apple podcasts (and probably others). It may be helpful to try clicking around their site to get a feel for it, since it is pretty different. 


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06/12/2019 8:28 am  

I'd like to weigh in on the publication, Democracy Now!, which is hosted by Amy Goodman, the filmmaker journalist who runs the organization. 

Learning something about Democracy Now! helps us understand bias.

Goodman was arrested and jailed in 2016 for filming a Dakota Pipeline story. She was filming security guards abusing protestors when she was arrested and jailed, and threatened with ten years imprisonment.  

It turned out that the prosecutor was a fan of Rolling Stone journalist Matt Taibb, who is an award winning extraordinary and popular journalist.  So in order to help Goodman, who he knows professionally, Taibbi wrote a complimentary article about her and Democracy Now! explaining who this woman is and why she should be released from jail.  

His article is worth reading and will make you want to follow Democracy Now! https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/journalist-amy-goodman-shouldnt-be-arrested-for-covering-dakota-pipeline-story-119214/

For those of you who don't know Matt Taibbi, his stories are also worth reading. 

To call Amy Goodman biased biased is interesting.  Yes, she is less likely to cover the corporate side of the story than the people's side of the story and, according to Taibbi, she does so with unflinching photo journalism.  

We all know that Fox is biased.  It's basically the P.R. arm of corporate America.  So it's not  journalism but public relations which is part of a company's marketing system.  When Fox News started way back in the day, it was well known that good journalists left because of the enforced, pro corporate bias, and bad journalists were hired. Their error rate  (number of factoids) which is tracked by journalism watchdogs, like Columbia Journalism Review and Fair,  is off the charts.  

Then there are main stream publications like the NY Times, Washington Post, the Guardian, and the Boston Globe.  These are also biased in favor of corporate power but they are a whole other magnitude less biased than outlets like Fox News.  They hire top notch journalists and they follow basic journalism method, unlike FOX which just writes p.r. schlock.   The reputable news outlets have fact checkers who check the truth in the stories. When I wrote a story for the Atlantic many years back, their fact checker was all over the story, making dozens of  calls to check the facts of every detail in my story.  (It checked out :-))  Remember the movie, Almost Famous?  An important plot line hinged on the Rolling Stone fact checker being unable to verify the unflattering details he exposed about the rock group he was writing about.  

Taibbe (of Rolling Stone)  points out that in order to get the stories, journalists have to get on the good side of their sources,  and that means that journalists have to snuff some unflattering facts.  Even at Rolling Stone, which is progressive and Republicans would call extremely biased, he admits he's snuffed the truth in order to maintain access to his sources.  But Amy Goodman at Democracy Now! doesn't do that, he writes. 

I read two publications whose sole focus is to detect bias in journalism.  Columbia Journalism Review and Fair.  They keep track of errors and bias in reporting and help you to become aware of just how reporters give us biased news.


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