[Closed] Earth's Patterns and Future Predictions
Did climate change happen before in Earth's pre-history and if so, does it forecast what could now lie ahead?
“You put more CO2 in the atmosphere and you get more warming, that’s just super-simple physics that we figured out in the 19th century,” says David Naafs, an organic geochemist at the University of Bristol. “But exactly how much it will warm by the end of the century, we don’t know. Based on our research of these ancient climates, though, it’s probably more than we thought.”
Last week, Naafs and colleagues released a study in Nature Geoscience that reconstructs temperatures on land during this ancient high-CO2 hothouse of the late Paleocene and early Eocene epochs.
I'm familiar with this line of thinking, and it's rather worrying, because it's more likely to be accurate than all the climate modelling. The Earth knows better than any model.
One interesting thing, whenever the Earth has warmed, the poles have warmed a lot more than the Equator. So the further North (or South) you live, the greater will be the expected changes in climate.
I can't help but believe that extraordinary times will call forth extraordinary resilience, and extraordinary creativity to cope with the situation. Which is not to say it won't suck for some--but it's a necessary challenge on the road for human evolution. R1
R1 I glad you can’t help but be optimistic. And I agree with you. Humans always have pulled through. We will find a way.
I also want to add that if you look back in history, humans came up with extraordinary solutions. And some solutions just happened. The defeat of the Spanish armada in 1588, hampered by a great storm, as they sailed in battle towards England. Hitler's curious decision not to wipe out the British army as it gathered trapped at Dunkirk. Discoveries that we can not now imagine may yet happen to help us through climate change. Nicolas Taleb, a mathematician in uncertainty theory, who wrote The Black Swan, said we only know about 2 percent of what there is to know. One thing is for sure, we are highly motivated to come up with solutions.
Also, although science shows what will likely happen in our climate as we zoom towards 1000 parts per million atmospheric carbon, we don't know what will actually happen. A super volcanic explosion could cool the earth long enough to buy more time. Good people are working on the problem.
This is where I'm placing my bets:
One of the best-kept secrets in the world today is that the solution to global warming and the climate crisis (as well as poverty and deteriorating public health) lies right under our feet, and at the end of our knives and forks. “Regenerative Agriculture” describes farming and grazing practices that, among other benefits, reverse climate change by rebuilding soil organic matter and restoring degraded soil biodiversity – resulting in both carbon drawdown and improving the water cycle. Science says that we can actually reverse climate change by increasing soil carbon stocks.
Thank you Runestone 😀
I am very interested in the soil and how to rebuild it. I try to do that in my modest piece of land. But I wasn't aware that the link between soil and climate was so important and I find that comforting (and poetic). I will read more about it.
Jeanne, I don't think that comparing fighting climate change with winning a naval battle is appropriate. OK, maybe I'm a little sensitive over that particular naval battle since I had to study the English version of it to pass my UK citizenship test. 😉
There are already a number of ideas to cool off the Earth. But it would be frightening if we had to employ them. Who would you trust with the power of controlling the Earth's climate?
Returning carbon to the soil can help somewhat, but as long as we keep burning fossil fuels, we are just adding to the problem faster than we are fixing it.
Maria, I agree, and you are Spanish, and my ancestors are half Spanish, half Scottish - so what was I thinking? lol It came to me only because of remembering Cate Blanchett, who I love, pacing the floor as the Spanish Armada bore down on her Elizabeth I.
My point is that there are unknowns that could helps us out. And it's impossible to imagine something that we don't know about yet.
When we read the future, we can't imagine something we don't have a point of reference for. So we can only try to see if we can see us still around in 300 years. I've tried that in meditation and I've had visions of people still here.
Oh, there's definitely people around on Earth for thousands of years in the future. I'm not worried at all about that.
What does worry me is that in some futures a lot of people appear to be pretty miserable, going hungry pretty often and not feeling safe. Which is why you have to try to think now how that could happen, and what could be done to stop it from happening.
The earth is wobbling and it is caused by climate change.
Predicting more and more internal uprisings by Mother Earth as we ignore her warnings and refuse to honor the gifts we have been given to create a heaven on earth.
More storms, super storms , hurricanes and tornadoes are all above her crust but now deep within, our cracks are becoming her cracks as shifting plates and heating magma create volcanoes and begin remapping our world as we know it.
Pattetns and promises and new signs of things to come in the eons ahead.
Scientists recently heard a sound that they described as the ringing of a bell. It was different than previous earth sounds that marked geophysical happenings in the past. It began in a spot between Africa and Madagascar, then was repeated in other spots around the world.
The ringing bell of a clarion call that barely made the news amidst the news furor of politics and celebrity gossip.
National Geographic reports the French Geological Survey suspects a new volcano may be developing off the coast of Mayotte. While the island was created by volcanic activity, it’s been dormant for more than 4,000 years.
But the signs are beginning and its so much deeper than science or technology and shooting aerosol climate changers into our atmosphere.
The angels have been telling me to "get out of politics" but how does one save the very earth beneath us?
I hear "For Whom the Bell Tolls" and all I can do is send healing love along with all the others who are trying to guide and protect us. But I do it with all my heart 💜
Imagining the pink pepto bismol imagery that just entered my mind to settle, soothe, and protect all the inner uprisings as our mother fusses and warns us 🌏
Michele, I thought f you this morning when I heard about the earthquake in Alaska. I know you live in Oregon, but are from Alaska and I hope your family there is safe. Sending light love to the people f the Anchorage area.
Thank you so much Bluebelle.
Even though I'm from Douglas Island, I have family there, in Juneau, Anchorage, Eagle River just north of Anchorage, and Fairbanks. Have been in touch with Anchorage nephew's through my family in Douglas.
Photos of their stuff all over and smashed in their houses with roads cracked ooen, bridges and overpasses collapsed. Cars and people trapped.
Havent heard from Eagle River nephew and family yet but they were just north where worst damage is being reported.
So appreciate your thoughts and wishes. We are far apart in miles but close as a family. And Alaska is my heart and forever earth home.
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So grateful it wasn't even bigger and no resulting tsunami along the Pacific coast.
We had a geologist visiting after Thanksgiving and I asked him about our Cascadia Sub-induction Fault and its huge potential impact for all of us along it with all our dormant volcanoes under most of our well known mountains here.
He reiterated a potential tsunami able to wipe our our coastal cities and earthquakes causing much damage but tried to reassure me of unknown time frames or extant. But he added that it had the potential to be huge.
Not sure if this is the best place to post. (May cross-post to the astrology thread.)
I'm sensing that this Friday, December 7, 2018—which marks a new moon (at 15-degrees Sagittarius)—could be a signal date for a trigger to a "force majeure" event. I believe it's likely to involve both water and fire, so it may be the eruption of an ocean volcano (though I can think of several other scenarios linking these conditions). The full moon on Winter Solstice will be at 0-degrees Cancer, making it particularly powerful, so it could be a culmination point for this event.
If a volcanic eruption, best guess (not intuitive) is that it would occur somewhere along the "Ring of Fire," which is a huge geographic area, obviously. (I'm feeling Southern Hemisphere for fires and earthquakes now and over the next few months, so maybe there? Not that this nails it down much.)
Although, it could be linked to a vision I posted about in another thread a couple of months back, which would place it somewhere in the Atlantic, off the west/possibly northwest coast of Africa or east of the Mediterranean, although this would have it coming sooner than I originally felt. That vision seemed to involve a tsunami and other upheaval. Whatever the case, I'm asking that we all hold the wider global field with love and coherence, and a prayer that the highest possible outcome for all involved be realized.
It feels like there's tremendous flux in the timelines I'm seeing, which is why I'm having difficulty nailing down both type and location. I never pick up precise dates and very rarely even months, so this is a surprise to me (and could easily be way off in one direction or another!). However, on Friday, Mars will form a conjunction with Neptune in Pisces on the exact degree. And I feel this is significant.
Pisces is the realm of the waters and Neptune, Pisces' natural ruler, is the god of the waters. Mars is fire, action, initiation, and any incendiary potentiation—for good or ill.
Michele I am thinking of you and your dear Alaska, our Alaska, everyone's Alaska. I feel that great land in your beautiful heart.
Bless you for that understanding, Jeanne.
And thank you, Vestralux, for sharing all of your insights from so many gifts and modalities.
Every part of each of us becomes part of all of us for even those here who cannot verbalize their understandings. They still can recognize their own truths or beliefs here and as our collective consciousness rises, it is rising every where else.
So many others all over the world are gathering and helping and urging our true selves to listen and to join in and most of all to become part of the solution instead of part of the problem.
I can feel Trump reeling from so much love and praise for George H.W. and seeing his own self hatred reflection in comparison right now.
It is a stark comparison and even though our former President G.H.W. Bush was not a saint, he was a good man and he sought to do good and be better, and always to be of service. And we all can respect and even love that.
Yes, there really are strong polarities at work now, shifting of many plates, many upheavals, many fires and furies and surgings and rising up and overs. Inside and out, above and below.
And so yes, fire and water feels very strong symbolically now, as do mountains and valleys and caves and caverns; airplanes and submarines. All over the place because that's how it is. So much.
And as Vestrlux has said:
Whatever the case, I'm asking that we all hold the wider global field with love and coherence, and a prayer that the highest possible outcome for all involved be realized.
So beautifully said, Michele.💜
I went looking early this morning and found an astrologer, Steve Judd, who briefly said that that this new moon on Friday 7 (including dates beginning today) is likely to provoke something related to fire and water, because of the sun/moon conjunction in Sagittarius (fire sign) that is squaring the Mars/Neptune conjunction in Pisces. I think he called it the most difficult aspect he's seen.
He then expanded to say it could involve ships, oil, or pipelines. I had a vision in Sept or Oct of Canadian fires potentially connected to the oil sands facilities (Alberta I think). Not sure if this would manifest there, especially given the season, but Michele, you wrote "airplanes and submarines" and that feels significant, perhaps beyond what's already occurred related to Russian aggression.
Thank you for emphasizing that prayer and simply for being a light.
Thank you for sharing this, villager. Unfortunately, I have a feeling this was just a taste of some larger volatility which could be felt between now and the full moon (emphasis Friday and this weekend), though I very much hope I'm wrong.